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Roamio and Mini update today (10/17/2013)

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by TiVoMargret, Oct 17, 2013.

  1. elwaylite

    elwaylite Member

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    You noticed that too huh?
     
  2. markp99

    markp99 TakoKichi TCF Club

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    Oooohhhh, This makes so much more sense now! ;)
     
  3. jcthorne

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    Speaking of goodies from Tivo, anyone heard anything about a consolidated now playing list recently? They said it was in the works, would sure be a nice upgrade.
     
  4. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    The My Shows list is already unwieldy with a 3TB drive. I wouldn't want it consolidated with another TiVo.

    I will be glad if/when they implement profiles. It would make the management of the My Shows list so much easier.
     
  5. jrtroo

    jrtroo User

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    I don't remember this and the new Roamio seems to make that irrelevant. Do you have a reference?
     
  6. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Do you mean consolidating Now Playing from multiple TiVos? If so I've never heard anyone say that was in the works and I seriously doubt it's ever going to happen.
     
  7. zordude

    zordude WDW Fan TCF Club

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    Anyone else having MRV issues since the update? I can see the other Roamio and delete shows, but not stream
     
  8. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Tell me about it. What we need are *CUSTOM FOLDERS*
     
  9. Philmatic

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    The concept of a single Roamio "hub" with multiple Mini's make this much less appealing to the 95% of people who will only have one TiVo with a tuner in their household. If I was TiVo, I wouldn't waste precious development hours on that, aaronwt is not their target audience. :)
     
  10. DarcyM

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    I would love to see co-operative recording where one unit is a "master" and then you have one or two as "slaves". The core tech is already there in the network remote control function, just the needed code to schedule each unit and I honest don't think it would be hard for them to code that up. Can you imagine having 12 or 18 tuners avail and making it easy to manage from one interface.
     
  11. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    We've talked about that before. There is a lot more to it then meets the eye. For example what happens if the network goes down? The master has no way to know if the slave TiVos are completely offline or if they simply lost their network connection but are still available to record. Or what if someone cancels a recording directly on one of the slave units, does it cease to record or does it get pushed off to another unit based on priority? There are a bunch of other small complications like this that could arise. Cooperative scheduling is something that seems simple in theory, but is much more complicated when you start to account for all the real world scenarios that could arise.
     
  12. DarcyM

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    Your making it harder then it needs to be. The slaves could have a to-do list scheduled ahead of time, if the network goes down it shouldn't stop it from recording what it had in it's schedule. If someone cancels a recording it can prompt to ether cancel completely or try to reschedule it on another slave or master unit. If a slave is unreachable for a certain amount of time, the master could drop it off from being active and reschedule programs based on priority in the master to-do list. If the slave becomes active and checks in it can then respond to what the slave has recorded or not, or whats still scheduled on it to record. I guess since I have had experience in doing some multi-node computer programming in my younger days it just seems easier in my mind to do then it would for most.
     
  13. rainwater

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    With TiVo focusing on the Roamio and Mini setup, cooperative scheduling is not going to be on their radar. It would not make any sense for it to be. It's a waste of time to discuss especially in this thread.
     
  14. moyekj

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    Co-op scheduling is DOA now with 6 tuner units available with tunerless clients (Minis).
     
  15. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    But if they did it that way and the slave actually went down, as in could not record, then you may miss a higher priority recording. For example say you have three 2 tuner TiVos. Now say the master schedules recordings for shows priority 1 & 2, then the slaves get recordings 3 & 4 and 5 & 6 respectively. Now say a few hours before the recordings the TiVo with 3 & 4 drops off the network. What does the master do? Does it assume it's off line and move those recordings to the other slave, canceling 5 & 6? Or does it leave it as is and potentially miss 3 & 4 completely?

    The schedule is dynamic, based both on priority and potential changes to data, having to rely on networked tuners for recordings presents all sorts of potential challenges. If you have a wired network and UPSes for all your TiVos it would probably work fine, but they have to consider all possible scenarios.

    And with TiVos now coming with 6 tuners they really have no incentive to deal with those challenges.
     
  16. Devx

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    I just checked when I saw this and it seems I was getting a V112 error streaming from the Plus to the Pro. It worked from the Pro to the Plus however. By the time I could get back to the Pro it's working again. Seems intermittent and I cannot reproduce. When I had the issue on the Pro it worked fine streaming from the Elite.
     
  17. Devx

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    Did anyone else notice with this update that the System info screen is now reporting battery level of the standard RF remote?
     
  18. tim1724

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    Yep. :)
     
  19. c3

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    Had my first freeze in less than 5 days of operation. No video, no response to remote and front panel buttons. Had to power cycle it. Recordings on all 6 tuners stopped at the same time when nobody was home.
     
  20. JWhites

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    I completely disagree and feel it would just cause TiVo to screw things up :rolleyes: They are barely keeping things together, lets not add any unnecessary features into the mix that could turn the Roamio into another Premiere fiasco both performance wise and updatability wise. Let's not forget we're still waiting for them to complete the HD menus, and from what I've gathered they're trying to make both the Premiere and Roamio have the same UI, so that would mean the Premiere would have to get the same folder feature.
    Update post HAXE: yay I was right. They brought the new UI to the Premiere. :)
     
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