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Roamio and 4 Minis

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by geekmedic, Sep 7, 2013.

  1. Sep 7, 2013 #1 of 44
    geekmedic

    geekmedic TiVo Fanatic TCF Club

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    I currently have 5 TV's showing live TV on different channels and everything is running smoothly. No jittery video or audio dropouts. Live TV on the Roamio Pro, 3 Minis via MoCA, and 1 Mini via ethernet.

    TiVo definitely did a great job implementing a whole home DVR solution!
     
  2. Sep 7, 2013 #2 of 44
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    That is pretty awesome!
     
  3. Sep 8, 2013 #3 of 44
    lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    I setting up a single Roamio + and 5 Minis, testing the system out in my home, takes about 30 hours before the Roamio will connect to the Minis but they are all working now, have to install in my friend home now, we are replacing 5 TiVos (that he will sell) and removing 5 Cable cards that cost him about $8.00/month each. The system cost him about $1985, the five TiVo should net him on E-Bay about $1400, so he will be even in a year or so.
     
  4. Sep 8, 2013 #4 of 44
    gweempose

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    I agree. It's definitely convenient having a box with six tuners that supports DTA. Not only did the addition of a Roamio and two Minis allow me to get rid of four cablecards, but it finally gave me a setup that I am completely happy with. The Roamio records the bulk of the stuff that my wife and I watch, and it also provides the tuners for the Minis in the guest bedroom and workout room. My three Premieres each have dedicated uses. One XL is for the kids, the other XL is used strictly for movies, and the XL4 is my personal box that I use to record Sci-Fi, horror, and all the the other stuff my wife can't stand. :)
     
  5. Sep 8, 2013 #5 of 44
    Dan203

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    Hmmm.... they must have bumped the 3 stream limit. I wonder what the max is now?
     
  6. Sep 8, 2013 #6 of 44
    lessd

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    TiVo told me 4 streams or that you can run 4 Minis at the same time, but connect 6 Minis to one system, I am setting up a 5 Mini system to a Roamio + at a friend home in the next few weeks, I have the 5 Minis and the Roamio plus at my home and all five (one at a time) are working with the Roamio + I will be testing 4 Minis working at the same time in a day or so at my home first.
     
  7. Sep 9, 2013 #7 of 44
    BlondAngel

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    I am on the fence with this...

    Currently, I have just a premiere with monthly subscription. Thinking of switching to Roamio Plus with lifetime subscription. I only have one tv, but I plan to have another in the bedroom soon.

    However, I don't like the idea that the Tivo Mini is SO expensive compared to a Roku. (I don't have a roku yet, so if there is something cheaper than a Tivo Mini and it is a better option than a roku, let me know).

    I will have a PC with pyTivo and kmttg -- this way I can offload shows from Tivo to make room for more programs.

    So.. I am asking for the pros and cons for the following two setups:

    Roamio Plus with a mini -- I believe that I have to transfer from PC to Roamio, then play from Mini.

    Roamio Plus with Roku with the PC having PlayOn with the Roku PlayOn channel. Or Plex with a Roku Plex channel.

    Any opinions are appreciated. Also, I am hard-of-hearing and closed-captions/subtitles are a must when watching shows.
     
  8. Sep 9, 2013 #8 of 44
    jmpage2

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    You might not have realized this, but you basically stuffed this into a thread about something else entirely.

    You would be better served by looking at the Mini forum as there is already a topic under discussion about the cost/value of lifetime service of the Mini... or create a brand new topic there, in the appropriate forum, with your question.

    The bottom line is that the Mini allows you to watch not only your recorded shows, but you can watch live TV as well. Roku cannot do this. Roku can either playback highly compressed files that you've painstakingly put into a network accessible location, or it can use its various streaming services like Netflix to offer up Video On Demand.

    Whether the cost of a Mini is "worth it" is a completely subjective question. Some people spend ungodly number of hours downloading things with Bit-torrent, and using tools and scripts to put those shows onto network accessible storage, so that they can save a few bucks and watch them on a Roku.

    For me personally, having what is essentially a 2nd full TiVo, with access to everything on the primary TiVo "hub" is well well WELL worth the $150 cost of a lifetime fee. How much is convenience worth to me? $230 or so dollars apparently.
     
  9. aryndub

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    Any update on this? i currently have a Windows Media Center 7 system running and use 5 extenders to distribute through the house. Wife is getting sick of the random issues that seem to have plagued us fir the past 3 years or so. long story short, I'm thinking a Roamio and a few Minis might be a good replacement. Entire house is wired Cat6, so speed shouldn't be an issue. I'm more concerned about running possibly 6 streams (or more concurrently) without slowdown much lime I can with my WMC setup. Is this possible? My current setup doesn't break a sweat at all, but it has loads more resources.

    Also, has anyone gone from a cablecard WMC with extenders to Roamio with Minis? Pros/Cons?

    Any feedback would be appreciated.
     
  10. DigitalDawn

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    Should be able to run up to 8 simultaneous streams off a single Roamio.
     
  11. aryndub

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    Wow... so I could have 1 person watching a liveTV stream on the Roamio, 5 other Mini clients watching "live" streams and then finally, 2 others watching recorded TV? And/or some combination of recording as well? I wonder how the transcoding/streaming to iPad/iPhone might affect this.

    Is there an official FAQ regarding number of clients anywhere that I missed? I looked on the Tivo website as well as on this site and can't find anything. Everything that I read over the past day or so said that it could only handle 3 Mini clients at a time.
     
  12. waterchange

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    The maximum number of Mini clients has been reported as 9 here and other places. But according the FAQ link on this page, the number is 8 Mini clients which can be supported by one Tivo DVR:
    "How many Mini boxes can be supported on one TiVo DVR?
    Up to eight TiVo Minis can be supported by one TiVo network containing either TiVo Roamio or Premiere DVRs."
     
  13. NYHeel

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    I recall that there was some kind of limit of 12 total devices linked to a Tivo, including mobile devices. I have a Roamio, 1 Mini and 6 iOS devices in my family. Yet my Stream seems to be reporting 9 devices. I wonder if I can remove some devices. They may have 2 older model iphones on there that I've since sold.
     
  14. Dan203

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    A TiVo account is limited to 10 total devices. iOS devices do not count, but TiVos, Minis and standalone Streams do. I'm not sure about the Stream built into the Roamio. It is a separate device on the network, but I don't see it listed on my account. However it could be registered on the backend. That could be why they say they only support 8 Minis because a Roamio Plus/Pro is actually taking up 2 of the 10 slots.
     
  15. NYHeel

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    On the Tivo app in the stream settings it does say 8 of 12 in the mobile devices section. This implies to me that there's a 12 streaming device limit. The weird thing is that I don't have 8 streaming devices but only 6 at the most.
     
  16. aryndub

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    I'm really only concerned about it from a performance point of view. If it supports 8 devices, but starts stuttering and affecting recordings and/or liveTV performance in other rooms, then it's not really worth it.

    I would love to free my PC (via WMC) from the burden of never rebooting to avoid dropping scheduled recordings though, but want to ensure that it's the same or better TV viewing experience.

    Also, as I'm new to the Roamio lineup (but had a TivoHD and DirecTivos in the past)... if I purchase a Tivo Roamio Plus and Mini... could I purchase lifetime for the Mini immediately and then use the PLSR discount code to purchase the $400 MSD lifetime for the Roamio immediately afterwards? As I've read that the code will only work for current customers. Apologies in advance if this is the wrong forum to post this question on...
     
  17. Dan203

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    You mean on the full system information screen? That's something different. If you reboot the Stream/TiVo that will reset to 0.
     
  18. aaronwt

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    Even the Premiere can easily handle 8 concurrent HD streams. The Roamio has zero issues with 8 concurrent HD streams. It can handle much more.
     
  19. Dan203

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    Yeah the network would be the limiting factor there. With gigabit you'd be fine, but with 10/100 or MoCa you'd probably start seeing issues with 4 streams. In fact my network is MoCa and I see problems with just 3. The other night my wife was watching the Mini while I simultaneously transferred a program from my upstairs Premiere and streamed a show from that same Premiere and I was seeing a bit of stuttering in the playback and the transfer ended up failing. I'm thinking about trying to pull some Cat6 so I can hardwire the whole network for gigabit.
     
  20. Devx

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    The PLSR code should be valid for new customers as well. I've not read anything different. YMMV.
     

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