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Roamio - Adding External Storage

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by markp99, Sep 14, 2013.

  1. Sep 21, 2013 #21 of 155
    Chesterton

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    What about the warranty? Isn't that a reason to go with an external drive? Sorry, I'm not trying to drive my own point, as I'm just a newbie to TiVo. I just don't know the answer. Is the answer "keep the old disk around and put it back in if something goes wrong and hope TiVo doesn't notice when it's sent in"?
     
  2. Sep 21, 2013 #22 of 155
    dianebrat

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    Tivo has always been a "don't ask, don't tell" approach to replaced drives, they know you upgraded your drive, but if the OEM drive is back in it for troubleshooting and the issues is not drive related, they will usually let it slide. It's not written in stone, but over the years it's been pretty consistent.
     
  3. Dec 30, 2013 #23 of 155
    Adam333

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    How big is the hard drive on the middle of the road roamio?



    Thanks
    Adam
     
  4. Dec 30, 2013 #24 of 155
    aaronwt

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    The Roamio Plus comes with a 1TB drive.

    The Roamio Pro comes with a 3TB drive.

    The Roamio Basic comes with a 500GB drive.
     
  5. Dec 30, 2013 #25 of 155
    bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    The plus has a 1 Terabyte drive installed, it can be replaced with a 3tb drive.
     
  6. Dec 31, 2013 #26 of 155
    HDRyder9

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    Yes, it can.
     
  7. Dec 31, 2013 #27 of 155
    aaronwt

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    It can also be replaced with a 1.5 TB, 2 TB, or 2.5 TB drive too. Isn't that the case?
     
  8. Jun 19, 2014 #28 of 155
    mkelley

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    Sorry to revisit on old thread, but I just bought a Roamio Basic (the lowest model) after not having a new TiVo since my Series 3.

    It so happens I have lots of 3TB drives laying around (don't ask -- I'm a former IT professional who just has lots of computer gear) and am wondering if the internal drive replacement is true for the Basic (which I don't see anyone talking about here except in terms of drive space).

    Frankly I'm not sure I'll ever need or want more than 75 hours of HD recording (because with my older TiVos I found if I had too much stuff it just never got watched and eventually deleted) but OTOH the idea of putting a much larger drive inside appeals to me. In any case, is this a possibility with the TiVo I bought? (And are there instructions to point me to somewhere on the web, although I suspect I could figure it out once I got the box opened up, as I replace drives in computers all the time).
     
  9. Jun 19, 2014 #29 of 155
    eboydog

    eboydog Just TiVo'ing.....

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    It will work for the basic just the same manner as the Plus & Pro, the cover isn't as easy to remove as the standard box as there is one screw to remove (in the back center) and the cover slips off with three tabs that need to be eased out carefully to prevent their damage, it's a little nerving at first as you don't want to damage the plastic cover. There is drive upgrade thread in the Roamio section that has pictures and better instructions.

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=507695

    Just about any 3tb drive should work but the preferred option is use the green AV drives as the standard desktop drives can produce more heat than the type of drives intended including those who hold the position that the AV drives are just better for the Roamio overall. Of course removing the cover voids the warranty and it's advised to keep the stock drive for warranty purposes.
     
  10. Jun 20, 2014 #30 of 155
    jmbach

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    A do it yourself Roamio 4TB install is now possible. Not as simple as dropping a drive in and go for 3TB and less size drive as it requires using a computer to prep the 4TB drive. Look at it here at 4TB Roamio Image community edition
     
  11. Jun 27, 2014 #31 of 155
    tivoboy

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    When one does this, and has shows still on the primary initial drive. Is there any relatively elegant way of maintaining access to the current shows? Could one put this in an external and then flip flop at times with a reboot?
     
  12. Jun 27, 2014 #32 of 155
    jmbach

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    No elegant way. You would have to open the case and flip drives. You can use some of the other utilities that can transfer shows from TiVo to PC as long as the copy protection bit is not set. You can then transfer them back on to the new drive.
     
  13. Jun 27, 2014 #33 of 155
    thxman

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    For anyone having issues with adding an Expander drive (WD), to a Roamio from an older system, Tivo support has confirmed it is a known issues (since April!).

    My S3 HD died after almost 7 workhorse years, where I had a MyDvrEx 1TB hooked up, but when I worked out a deal with Tivo for a new Roamio basic (I only record OTA so having 4 tuners was very attractive to me), no matter what I did I could not get the drive to be seen.

    Tivo support did say to their knowledge a new MyDvr works fine; just not an older one from a different Tivo box. I wonder if I were to hook that drive up to my Win7 laptop which has an eSATA port, if reformatting the drive back to FAT32 might provide me a workaround? Anyone have opinions on this I would love to hear it.

    Thanks in advance and hope this helps anyone experiencing the same frustrating issue. :)
     
  14. Jun 27, 2014 #34 of 155
    telemark

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    An Opinion:
    Probably if you zero out the first 64 blocks, this will make the drive look blank to the Roamio.

    I suggest using iBored, because it can do a backup of any changes you make, and runs on Windows.
     
  15. Jun 27, 2014 #35 of 155
    jmbach

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    I agree with telemark's opinion.

    But I do wonder how far it goes to try to attach the drive. Does it recognize the drive as an approved drive and offer to initialize it and reboot the TiVo to finalize the attachment. Or does it recognize that it is already TiVo formatted and try to use the current setup and just add it to the TiVo.

    If it is the latter, it could be that it is confused about the ending.
     
  16. Jun 28, 2014 #36 of 155
    thxman

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    The Roamio will not recognize the drive at all (even after multiple unplugs & boot ups). I'm thinking a quick format to clear the MBR back to an initialized FAT32 table might do the trick (especially after support told me that new drives work fine).

    Thanks for the feedback!
     
  17. Jun 28, 2014 #37 of 155
    jmbach

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    Hmmm. Does not recognize the drive at all. Could you post the full model number of the drive and the firmware revision you get from WD diagnostics. For the model need the info after the hyphen as well.
     
  18. Jul 13, 2014 #38 of 155
    CopRock

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    If you aren't looking to open up and install a new HDD [and lose content on the old] is a 1tb WD external the only way to go or can you go higher TB's {roamio basic model} ... I'm a total newbie to the Tivo world and just got it at the end of last year for my b'day.
    Is it the WD external hard drives that say "Tivo certified" on them or are other models of "My Book A/V " from WD ok? [like WDBABT0010HBK on $99 special online]
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    ps.. this is my first post, noob here be kind
     
  19. Jul 13, 2014 #39 of 155
    jmbach

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    If you are looking for plug and play you will need the "TiVo certified" WD external hard drives.
     
  20. Jul 13, 2014 #40 of 155
    eboydog

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    With the Roamio, just not a lot of reasons to use the external drive expansion esp since a 3tb drive can be dropped in with no prep work needed and now that there is a free 4tb option which does require a little work, the risk of the external drive is unnecessary.
     

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