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Roam Free, Baby - TiVo Begins Out-of-Home Streaming Service

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by drebbe, Oct 24, 2013.

  1. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    No. Mini uses MRS (streaming), not MRV (copying), so is not affected by CCI flag.

    I have a Slingbox 350 but still considering getting an iPad Air for out of home streaming because there are some advantages over the Sling solution:
    * If you have a very poor connection there is nothing you can do with Sling - it will look really bad or constantly stall making things unwatchable. With the Stream solution you can set it to download for a while to build up a buffer and then start watching and the quality will still be one of the 3 pre-defined quality levels.
    * Again for poor connections the Slingbox 350 can take up to 20 seconds or so to respond to a button press while I'm hearing the iOS app response is pretty close to real time, so trick play is much more seamless compared to Sling.
    * Slingbox requires you take control of the box, so that box can't be used by someone else while Sling is in use. With Stream solution everything happens in the background.
    * With Slingbox you are restricted to whatever box it is connected to. With Stream solution any series 4 or higher unit on the network can be streamed from.

    The Sling has some advantages such as much higher quality captures possible, not affected by any copy protection nonsense, and can be connected to any box that has analog outputs, but I wouldn't rule out the Stream as a useless solution in comparison.
     
  2. A J Ricaud

    A J Ricaud Active Member

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    I tried to watch a recorded CNET podcast on my iPad inside my house but I got an error msg. that it was copy protected and could not be displayed--bummer. I thought you can see all content within your network.
     
  3. tatergator1

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    You can see all Live or recorded Cable TV content. Podcasts or Amazon downloads are restricted to only the box to which they were downloaded.
     
  4. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Plus I'll add that any H.264 content also cannot be viewed at all currently with Stream solution, copy protected or not.
     
  5. JonHB

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    Had to go do some sleuthing on this. I'm using a Ubiquiti Edge Router that I thought was not using UPNP, but as it turns out, it is now enabled. I'm thinking one of my firmware updates slipped this in. :confused:
     
  6. Devx

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    Does in home streaming work? A few others are reporting problems too but I really think they are network related, either the internet provider or LTE coverage/congestion. I'm also wondering if Tivo's proxy server isn't making things worse for some people and if some of these connection issues might subside once direct connections are enabled.
     
  7. NYHeel

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    Most importantly, Slingbox doesn't offer the download option. That's a big one for me as I don't have to have a solid internet connection the entire time I'm watching. On my commute I frequently will download beforehand to watch on the bus since I'll usually lose a good cell signal periodically during the way.
     
  8. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    If you use a laptop as a client note that you can capture Sllingbox stream unencrypted to a file for Slingbox Pro or later models (kmttg added that capability recently). So you can let capture build up and then start watching while it's still capturing. But for Slingbox clients in general yes it's an issue.
     
  9. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    He was talking about the downsides of using a Slingbox, NOT the Stream.

    Read:

    "The only downside to the Slingbox is that it sucks up the video output of one of my TiVo units"
     
  10. LostInTheTrees

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    When traveling I carry an iPad and an HDMI cable with adapter. I stream Netflix or others and connect the iPad thru HDMI to the room's TV. This mostly works great, but some services restrict the use of HDMI on the iPad. The Comcast XFinity app was one of these. Most shows would allow streaming to the iPad, but would not allow the video to be sent through HDMI.

    Before I spend a lot of $$$ on Roamio, can someone confirm that the Roamio streaming app will NOT restrict use of HDMI output from the iPad?

    I simply can't stomach broadcast TV anymore, at all. I even watch football games from recordings.

    -Bob
     
  11. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    I think I read elsewhere that the output was restricted on both airplay and hdmi.
     
  12. LostInTheTrees

    LostInTheTrees New Member

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    Can anyone confirm this? Tivo has lost a $1000 sale to me if they have crippled OOH viewing.
     
  13. Beryl

    Beryl Well-Known Member

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    Besides cellular support, I wish TiVo would add an "audio only" mode for streaming which would allow for the device screen to be turned off and continue to stream. I use this mode extensively with Slingplayer and set it as the default on my phone.
     
  14. windracer

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    I'm pretty sure the TiVo app does not support AirPlay or HDMI output, unfortunately.
     
  15. Austin Bike

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    At the PHY level there is only one connection, so I believe that there has to be some IP translation (VLAN) to get the integrated stream assigned an IP because the MAC address of the Stream (to the rest of the network) is the MAC of the PHY on the unit. Because of that handoff it is probably more difficult to allow a stream to have its own setting. You'd probably need to add a second PHY (added cost) to make that happen. Then you'd get people complaining about having to have two network connections.



    The Tivo app does not allow streaming out of the HDMI app. To do this you need to jailbreak your iOS device.
     
  16. JonHB

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    There are two MAC addresses on the single interface. If you leave it as DHCP and want to use reservations, you can setup 2 different reservations.
     
  17. lickwid

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    New iOS update today. Hopefully it'll fix some of the issues people were having. My OOH streaming worked great the first week or so, but had some issues on Sunday night. It wouldn't connect to my stream, and it took awhile to redo setup. Last night it started working again after several tries.
     

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