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Roam Free, Baby - TiVo Begins Out-of-Home Streaming Service

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by drebbe, Oct 24, 2013.

  1. buscuitboy

    buscuitboy New Member

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    I have a 4-tuner Premiere. So, you are saying that if I get a stand alone TiVo Stream to add to it, I will essentially be able to do out-of-home slingbox like streaming with my Premiere, correct?

    If so, I would think/hope it would also work with a 2-tuner Premiere & stream as well, but maybe not.
     
  2. rsnaider

    rsnaider Active Member

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    The standalone streams have not been updated for OOH yet. I can only guess they should work the same way but until they are updated we do not officially know.
     
  3. JonHB

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    Interesting... When I setup the static IP, it only asked for one address. I did not notice there being a second place for another static address. I was a bit miffed that when set to DHCP that it was using an address that was NOT in my DHCP range.

    I just did an NMAP scan of my network and it looks like the Roamio grabbed a second address that is again in my static range. There is only one DHCP server on my network (Windows server 2008) and it is not giving out the addresses that the Tivo is trying to use. :mad:
     
  4. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Yes unfortunately TiVo did not provide any way to assign static IP to the Stream.
     
  5. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Which is a big, fat, stupid "DUH" move on TiVo's part and will make troubleshooting a nightmare.
     
  6. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    I'm not too bothered about it since I use DHCP + reservations in my router setup. So for case of Roamio I have 2 DHCP reservations set such that my Roamio and Stream each get a fixed IP. Every permanent device on my LAN gets a named reservation so I know exactly what's what but without the bother of having to deal with static IP assignments.
     
  7. RustySTL

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    Anyone having issues downloading over LTE? I can never get it to download a complete show to my iphone, and it is super slow. I'm using the basic setting, so the file size is about 175MB.
     
  8. Devx

    Devx New Member

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    What is your internet provider upload speed? Not having any problems downloading over LTE but the speeds can vary greatly depending on location and congestion.
     
  9. JonHB

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    I used this method last night to ensure the Tivo used the two specific IP's I wanted and it's now working fine. They're definitely using a tunnel configuration as I did not need to put any forwarding in place for OOH streaming.

    Tivo - please add static options for BOTH ip addresses, or at a minimum, use two consecutive ones if the first is specified. Leaving the stream on DHCP while the base IP is fixed is dumb. Also figure out why the Tivo was using IP's that were not assigned via DHCP.:mad:
     
  10. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    You still have UPNP disabled? If so then I'm not sure how they do automatic forwarding?
     
  11. jwbelcher

    jwbelcher New Member

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    You could do a static lease by MAC address. Then the stream would also have the same IP provided via DHCP.

    Nevermind, didn't see the dhcp reservation postings
     
  12. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    No, they should still have the option. It is plain stupid to have the ability to set a static address on the main Roamio but not the built-in stream. I have NEVER seen a product do that before.

    You can simulate something similar with DHCP assignments, but it is more complex and many more steps making setup, troubleshooting, and support all more difficult.
     
  13. RustySTL

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    It's a quoted 2Mbps, but I usually get more than that. Seems like it will start to download and then it disconnects and the download stops or says it's failed.
     
  14. mrizzo80

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    Is this something that can be rectified with a software update? There are always things that don't make the cut in the first release. The amount of people wanting a static IP is probably incredibly small.
     
  15. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    The standalone Stream which has been around quite a bit longer than Roamio internal Stream also doesn't have ability to configure static IP.
     
  16. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Quite likely.
     
  17. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    Agree that static should have been made an option, but it's dirt-simple to allocate a static DHCP res on aftermarket router firmware such as Tomato. It's not many more steps and involves no troubleshooting.

    I always use regular DHCP for my Tivos and have no issues, but agree that it could be an issue for streaming if uPNP is not working or disabled.
     
  18. DonnieZ

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    As I figured, this feature is overhyped and fails to deliver due to TiVo's restraints in regard to copy protected content.

    If I can't stream ALL of my content outside of the home, it doesn't offer what Slingbox does. I don't want to be in a position to watch something only to find out that Comcast starts setting the CP flag on more content and I'm SOL. With my Slingbox, I don't have that restriction. I can watch what I want, when I want, wherever I want. The only downside to the Slingbox is that it sucks up the video output of one of my TiVo units. It's total crap now that if I record a movie off of HBO I can't watch it in the bedroom - transfer prohibited.

    Is this same restriction in regard to copy protected content in place with a TiVo Mini? If so, it somewhat puts a damper on my master plan of replacing my two TiVo HD units with a Roamio Plus in the front room and a Mini in the bedroom.
     
  19. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    It does not use one of your video outputs. You can have a Roamio in the Family Room, a Mini in the bedroom and kitchen all on different live TV channels and still be watching something different on an IOS device remotely.

    Somebody will chime in and give a maximum number of streams allowed, I have seen a lot of numbers bandied about...

    But, I know the TiVo can handle six live streams at one time plus a couple of recorded content streams before it caps out. (Your internal network bandwidth is most likely going to be the limiting factor before you run out of streams)

    EDIT:

    I may not have answered your actual question, let me try again. Copy protected content is restricted from external streaming only. Internal streaming is allowed to both IOS and Mini receivers.
     
  20. jrtroo

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    Outside of the house experience for streaming is completely different from inside of the house, where streaming your recordings is unrestricted.
     

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