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Roam Free, Baby - TiVo Begins Out-of-Home Streaming Service

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by drebbe, Oct 24, 2013.

  1. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    No restrictions. Shockingly in the link above they don't mention that critical nugget.
    I will add too that Slingbox captures can be saved as *unencrypted* H.264 video (in real time), regardless of the CCI byte, something that can't be done with the TiVo method.
     
  2. morac

    morac Cat God

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    I'm pretty sure Sling encrypts their streams.

    The chart is wrong in one aspect. TiVo's Margret confirmed that it does do adaptive bit rates.

    Sling recently added airplay to their SlingPlayer iOS app. That brings a large number of major apps (Netflix, Amazon, HBO, SlingPlayer) that support airplay. I wonder why TiVo is still restricting it?
     
  3. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    TiVo uses an HLS stream, specifically designed for adaptive bit rate. (Also why android has been difficult)

    Two thoughts:

    1) It seems like TiVo is ultra conservative when interpreting the cable labs rules and their relationship with MSO's

    2) competition with the mini.
     
  4. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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  5. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Yep, that is the big one. TiVo has a LOT to lose compared to Slingbox if they don't walk the thin/tight line.
     
  6. NJguy

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    So I have no idea how to get this to work but OOH does not work for me. Watch on Phone is grayed out when I switch WIFI off and go on LTE. When I switch WIFI back on, no problem can start a recording and watch.

    Slingbox hooked up to my Mini works just fine though.
     
  7. Goober96

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    That's because it doesn't support cellular connections, WiFi only.
     
  8. Devx

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    bradleys posted a workaround, see thread linked below...

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=510477

    Direct streaming via LTE is slated for release next year.
     
  9. NJguy

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    My bad. Thanks for clarifying. You know, I thought that I read that but I spaced. I was able to use my phone's LTE as a WiFi hotspot for my iPad and it worked just as it should. Very cool....but my Slingbox connected to my Mini still does the job with every channel.
     
  10. ShoutingMan

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    Weirdly, OOH transfer is more stable than transfers within my home network.

    I transferred a 30 min sitcom via OOH without problem (just very slow). But then back home, transferring a 1 hr show a full quality fails with about 5 min remaining. It takes several retries and a reconnection of the app to finish off.
     
  11. gigaguy

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    TWC customer here, with only a Premiere for now. If what I see with kttmg, 95% of programs can not be copied or moved, so I assume any streaming would be the same, is that right? yay TWC:rolleyes:
     
  12. morac

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    In home streaming would work, out of home streaming would not.
     
  13. buscuitboy

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    I haven't see this answered yet, but would OOH streaming essentially take up one of the Roamio's 6 tuners (if available) and not affect the current viewer of the box while at home & watching?
     
  14. rainwater

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    It is kind of ugly the way it works now but if you want to view live programming it will actually start recording it to stream it to you. But it doesn't affect the person using the TiVo. However, you can view recordings without any weird side affects. Hopefully they find a way around the auto record to view live tv issue.
     
  15. JonHB

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    Just got my Roamio over the weekend and setup OOH streaming last night. Using my iPad at work today, I can see all the recorded shows on the Tivo and when I start the record/streaming, it actually starts recording on the Tivo, but it won't stream the content to me. I can see all existing content on the Tivo (as well as the newly recording one), and I can delete and manage the recordings, but nothing will stream. I keep getting "There was a problem connecting to your streaming device".

    I run a pretty tight firewall and no UPNP. Is there any port forwarding that needs to be in place to get this to work? I can't find any port info listed anywhere.
     
  16. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Currently, TiVo is relying on UPNP for automatic port forwarding to work. Here's a screenshot from Stream Sysinfo page (http://<stream ip>:49152/sysinfo) which has some port forwarding related information.
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=9865387#post9865387
    [​IMG]

    i.e. You possibly can get things working without UPNP by manually forwarding ports 49151 & 49152 in router setup.
     
  17. rsnaider

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    I can now confirm that the software update was required as I can now do OOH on my Premieres as well.
     
  18. JonHB

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    Tried this and not currently working. I'm starting to wonder if changing the Tivo IP address affects this. After I setup the IOS clients, I was having some networking issues and noticed that the Roamio had picked up an address that was in my static range which was conflicting with one of my Ubiquiti Unifi devices. I changed the Roamio to a static IP address after that and possibly I need to re-run the in-home setup on my IOS devices again. I'll try that tonight.
     
  19. rainwater

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    Also note that the Roamio IP address is not the same as the stream IP address. There are 2 ip addresses per Roamio. So you will need to setup the stream ip.
     
  20. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    As rainwater points out above there are 2 IP addresses - the Stream gets its own IP. When you setup forwarding did you forward to the Stream or Roamio IP?
     

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