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Roam Free, Baby - TiVo Begins Out-of-Home Streaming Service

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by drebbe, Oct 24, 2013.

  1. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Agreed.

    It is really a huge farce to say "anywhere". There are LOTS of different devices out there. They essentially support only ONE (iOS). Here are just a few NOT supported that people would ask for:

    Linux? No
    MacOS? No
    MS-Windows? No
    Android? No
    Browser? No
    DLNA? No
    Wii? No
    Xbox? No
    PS? No

    I have a dozen of various things from the above list and not a single non-TiVo device that will stream TiVo content *LOCALLY*, much less "anywhere".

    Oh, let's further expand the lie:

    "TiVo Roamio combines the functionality of a DVR, Apple TV, Roku and Slingbox"
     
  2. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    Web client...

    I certainly hope this is on the radar screen.

    CGI might be looking for a new project soon!:eek:
     
  3. mrizzo80

    mrizzo80 Active Member

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    If TiVo had ended their PR header/subject with "anywhere on any device" your argument would be valid.

     
  4. Goober96

    Goober96 New Member

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    Agreed. "Anywhere" is speaking of geography not devices.
     
  5. tatergator1

    tatergator1 Active Member

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    +1
     
  6. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Perhaps, but that seems to be implied that it is any device. The same way if a company says: "Access your account anywhere using the web!!"

    And yet it only works in Internet Explorer, it is a lie (perhaps at least a lie of omission). They don't have to say "Access your account anywhere on the web using any web browser" to be a lie, because the expectation by a typical person reading it would be that at least the major web browsers running on typical devices would be supported.

    Other irritating marketing examples:

    "Everything in the store is 25% off" except all the things listed later in fine print. Lie.

    "Get a free phone!" except you have to sign a contract and pay for it anyway... so it is not free, it is a zero down-payment. Lie.

    "Buy one get one free" is an oxymoron- something can't be free if you have a required obligation. It is buy one, get one at no additional cost. Lie.

    "Unlimited data!" except there are caps and slowdowns and exceptions. How is that not "limited"? Lie.

    I have a huge disdain for slimy marketing drivel.
     
  7. patrickthickey

    patrickthickey New Member

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    The whole world uses iOS, after all.

    Odd, the sales figures seem to mock that conclusion.
     
  8. Devx

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    Is that the ATT 6Mbps DSL package? If so, then the upload speed is likely too low to support streaming. I think the upload on the 6Mbps DSL package is 768Kbps or 1Mbps. The 50Mbps Comcast network should be fine.
     
  9. NeZorf

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    Does 1) streaming & 2) downloading outside the home work when the Roamio is behind a 'Double NAT' network? Hoping it will work and that there is some sort of magic Tivo proxy.

    Can someone check their router for any port forwarding / uPnP entries?

    TIA
     
  10. Devx

    Devx New Member

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    Still trying to find the sweet spot for "MRV" over LTE. Fastest is watchable, much more than I thought it would be and allows trick play functions almost immediately (its downloading faster than its playing). Hard to get over medium though, it looks great.

    Also, a heads-up that OOH downloading also works fine from the Premiere using the stream embedded in the Roamio. In my case, downloading from an Elite using the stream in the Pro.
     
  11. mrizzo80

    mrizzo80 Active Member

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    TiVo does (at least currently) use a proxy. I don't know enough about networking to know if this is what you are looking for though.

    http://support.tivo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2762/
     
  12. Devx

    Devx New Member

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    My router is not uPnP enabled and I didn't set up any port forwarding rules for any of the Tivo or Stream IPs. It just worked.
     
  13. LoadStar

    LoadStar LOAD"*",8,1

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    No, that's what you inferred.
     
  14. morac

    morac Cat God

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    According to TiVo's support docs, streaming is only supported for CCI=0x0 so users of systems like TWC are out of luck.

     
  15. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    And I, like others, fail to understand why it's ok to stream CCI-protected content in your home and not outside to your own devices. If I didn't know better I'd say Tivo has some backroom agreements with these MSOs not to do so, I don't think it's a CableLabs issue.

    They really have some explaining to do here (again), because they keep screwing over people on fascist systems like TWC.
     
  16. button1066

    button1066 New Member

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    Wipe the spittle off your chin and show some dignity please.

    It works perfectly well for the other boys and girls.
     
  17. morac

    morac Cat God

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  18. MichaelK

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    the android users really need to do their talking with their wallets.

    I have the money sitting in my savings account waiting for android support but i'm not buying roamio till it does. I've let them know this at every opportunity both solicited or not.

    I'm sick and tired of them 'not getting around' to X. Long time TIVo owner- S1, S1 directivo, S2, S2 directivo, S2DT, HDirectivo, S3, and S4. I'm done at this point not buying the Roamio until they finish something for once. When my S4's die I'll probably go X1 from comcast at this point.
     
  19. mr_smits

    mr_smits New Member

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    Excellent. We need this competition to keep innovation coming. Does Anyone know if Slingbox is subject to the Copy once byte (or whatever it's called) that Tivo Out of home streaming is that zealous cable operators use to prevent consumer control of content? Seems like that is the most important distinction.
     
  20. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    As far as I am aware, they are not subject to ANY restrictions on type of content streaming... at least on the mid and low models, because they are analog :) (Component connection).
     

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