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Rhapsody- and TIvo, The Good, Bad, and Ugly

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by BarryD99, Oct 10, 2007.

  1. sstatman

    sstatman New Member

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    There seems to be an issue where an application release leads to a mildly pathological situation where track plays leads to the permanent "Loading ..." state. The solution is, as noted, to reboot.

    It isn't ideal, I won't claim that it is. But, on the other hand ... a new release! Bugs fixed!
     
  2. brnscofrnld

    brnscofrnld where is this place?

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    Interesting about the sound quality. I have mine routed through a reciever and I can crank the volume and the sound is nice and clean. Its also on a wireless connection that does not have the best connection to the router.
     
  3. PaJo

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    On my DT Rhapsody will get times where it gets stuck in "download" requiring a reboot as posted previously to get it started. During thes times, it appears the tivo loses all hardwired networking capabilities , can not even call home. I tried changing the network setup during these periods, reboot the router etc but it has no effect, the only thing that fixes it is a complete reboot of the Tivo. It seems the basic Tivo networking process is shut down/killed by the rhapsody software and needs to be restarted. Is there a backdoor code to restart the networking processes?
     
  4. mtchamp

    mtchamp New Member

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    I am now able to get in and and click around without failure and without too much lag, but lag is still my main problem. I know when the lag might occur and refrain from clicking more than once as this will cause it to overshoot when things catch up.

    If all lagging could be eliminated, that would be great, but if it can't be done due to network traffic, then during any lag time, the "Please Wait" icon should come up right away. This way I would know my TV remote click was received. Nothing appears to happen after a remote click and then after 5-10 seconds, the "Please Wait" icon appears.
     
  5. gonzotek

    gonzotek tivo_xml developer

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    This happened to me last night with my 9.1 DT. Of particularly depressing note, it prevented my other devices from pulling a dhcp address if they requested one. The devices that were online at the time of the Rhapsody error could continue accessing the network and internet, but anything that was off, or was shut off and switched back on would not be given an address from the router. Trial and error led to me reliably reproduce the situation: if Rhapsody goes down hard, so does the TiVo's network access and the network's DHCP addressing. :( Unplugging the tivo from the network immediately allowed everything else to work as expected. Rebooting is the only fix I could find. Setting different network choices (static, self-assigned, phone) had no effect.
     
  6. RoyK

    RoyK New Member

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    9.1 strikes again
     
  7. gilport

    gilport New Member

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    I am loving Rhapsody via Tivo. I have already had the service, but now loving being able to use my TIVO and sound system to listen to Rhapsody. The only current issue I am having is new albums are not showing up. Any one else?
     
  8. mtchamp

    mtchamp New Member

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    I had a Halloween party tonight and Rhapsody on TiVo was a big hit.
     
  9. Nov 1, 2007 #109 of 378
    sstatman

    sstatman New Member

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    We sometimes slow the publishing cycle down a bit when we're trying to ensure maximum stability. So every once in a while, there will be a few days delay in new releases reaching the Tivos.
     
  10. Nov 4, 2007 #110 of 378
    CheezWiz

    CheezWiz ReplayTV->S3 Tivo

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    S3 9.2j

    Problems I am having

    1. Random reboots of my unit while Rhapsody is playing
    2. Sessions of extreme lag where UI will lock up. as much as 2 Minutes!
    3. Random crashes back to live TV.
    4. After using the Rhapsody app over the course of a few days, my S3's UI (while being a tivo, not using rhapsody) will begin to lag. 5-6 seconds of button press to reaction. Reboot required. Does not happen until I start using Rhapsody again.

    I think you might want to extend the trial period out since we are the beta testers and your best source of feedback. I certainly would not subscribe yet..... but it looks promising for sure.
     
  11. Nov 4, 2007 #111 of 378
    PaJo

    PaJo New Member

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    I still have a lot of problems with Rhapsody but do like it when it works. I doubt I will sign up to pay for it until it works as advertised.

    A few features I also need is the abilty to remove items from the "My library" , I tend to put albums in there because it is easier to find them after the reboot. Once they get Rhapsody on the tivo working, a song search on the Tivo would be nice as well.
     
  12. Nov 4, 2007 #112 of 378
    Dr_Diablo

    Dr_Diablo Dr_Diablo

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    Another issue I took exception to was the fact after all the hours spend DL the files, should you cancel this service those files are useless without the Rappy plug-in
     
  13. Nov 4, 2007 #113 of 378
    acvthree

    acvthree Active Member

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    Well, I logged in this morning to see if anyone else is having problems with Rhapsody. Seems I'm not alone.

    After just 48 hours of trying out Rhapsody, I'm seeing all of the problems seen above. I've yet to try Rhapsody without my Tivo becomeing unusable a few hours later and a reboot is required to restore functionality. My last crash was while showing someone how great Tivo is. That didn't work out so well.

    I might try Rhapsody again in the future, but for now it is unusable.

    Al
     
  14. Nov 4, 2007 #114 of 378
    BarryD99

    BarryD99 New Member

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    Mine's working 99% better. Since I was already a Rhapsody subscriber, I pay no more to be able to select and play the music either from my pc, laptop or two tivo's. I'm looking forward to some fixes and enhancements, but I'm pretty happy.

    For me, it is well worth $13/month.
     
  15. Nov 4, 2007 #115 of 378
    shady

    shady Previously European

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    I've used it almost everyday during the trial period. Here are my issues:
    1. UI freezing for 20 seconds or so
    2. Dumps me out into live tv every now and then, and at that point, the playlist is lost.
    3. Many of the Album lists are corrupted. For example, go and look at the Bare Naked Ladies Album list
    4. The Artist list often contains multiple entries for an artist (go and look at Rush!)
    5. Live albums (and many studio albums) have breaks between tracks when they are supposed to be continuous.
    6. The screen saver is really annoying. I want to see what track is playing, or the playlist. When I'm listening to music, I don't want to be playing with the remote control

    If I can create named playlists on my PC and access them via TiVo, I think I'll sign up for it, but I've not been able to find out if this will be possible. there is no way to do that with the TiVo trial)
     
  16. Nov 4, 2007 #116 of 378
    sstatman

    sstatman New Member

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    This works, absolutely. Any playlists you create using the PC client will appear in the Tivo as long as those playlists are entirely built using Rhapsody streamed tracks.

    (It's possible to create a playlist that mixes Rhapsody streamed tracks and audio files you have on your local PC. Because those playlists can't really be stored on our server ... representing the local files is iffy at best ... they get stored locally only, and so aren't available via the service.)
     
  17. Nov 5, 2007 #117 of 378
    ufo4sale

    ufo4sale Active Member

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    When you sign up for the free trial is it good for more then one TiVo? Rhapsody is only showing up on one my TiVo's.
     
  18. Nov 6, 2007 #118 of 378
    sstatman

    sstatman New Member

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    Each Tivo gets its own free trial. However, Tivo isn't rolling the app out to every single Tivo at once, just to try and constrain the overall amount of free trial traffic we get hit with at once.

    So it'll show up on your other Tivo at some point.
     
  19. Nov 6, 2007 #119 of 378
    nhaigh

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    I've had similar issues and have given up on the application, at least for now.
     
  20. Nov 7, 2007 #120 of 378
    PaJo

    PaJo New Member

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    I spent some more time with Rhapsody, it would be great if it actually worked. It was a bad night, the music would play but the lag time on the interface was unacceptable. The timer on the music track indicator would stop and I knew I was in for a wait; at times over one minute before the user interface would catch up and if by chance it happened between songs it would appear the system froze up but after a long wait everything would start again. I dealt with it for about a half hour, press a few clicks on the remote then wait and wait. It finally got to me and I decided it was not worth the trouble. A nice idea but until they get the software to a usable condition it is worthless, I'll stick with the music channels on the Comcast HD DVR box.
     

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