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Revolution Pilot: Hulu/Web now, airs 9/17/12 SPOILERS

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Peter000, Sep 6, 2012.

  1. LoadStar

    LoadStar LOAD"*",8,1

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    I don't know if any of this is likely. I'll let pilots take this theory apart. :)

    If we conjecture that these people live reasonably near O'Hare, since it didn't seem to take them terribly long to walk there, the planes could have either on a turn for final approach, or possibly a holding pattern (if the tower got some sort of advance hint that something was starting to happen). If the planes were turning when power failed, and these were fully fly-by-wire, the control surfaces might have locked, causing more of a spiraling crash when engines failed.

    ETA: I still don't think it would look like they depicted it.
     
  2. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    The planes fell the way they did because that's what looked most dramatic on TV. It's nothing more than that. Don't overthink it. If they depicted it realistically, with the plane gliding down, covering several miles horizontally for every 1,000 feet of altitude it lost, then you'd either see the plane glide through the picture and blow up off screen, or you just see the explosion on screen but don't see the plane flying beforehand. The only way to really show the plane in the sky for a couple seconds, and then have the explosion be in the frame and be relatively close to their house is the way they did it. Not the most realistic, but the most dramatic. When making TV shows, drama is much more important than realism.
     
  3. Craigbob

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    The woman was using a modem to connect her computer to another computer. No internet required. That's how it was done in the old days. ;)

    Now this begs the question of was it a previously scheduled connection or was it spur of the moment after the militia had left with Danny? If it was spur of the moment, why/how was the other computer powered on and able to connect immediately?
     
  4. Flop

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    This is an overly simplified description of aircraft stalls and spins, but is enough for general discussion.

    Any plane can enter a spin under the right conditions, but airliners aren't tested for spins since the forces caused on them would cause bits of the plane to go missing :p A plane enters a spin if there is enough yaw force while stalled (in reference to flight, stall essentially means no lift is being produced by the wing, not necessarily engines out or speed reduced to 0 as is used in reference to cars) Most unintentional stalls occur during takeoff and landing and are easily recovered from.

    In the scenario of the show where a airliner lost all control input and engine power, planes on climb out would quickly stall. A spin would only occur if there were yaw forces during the stall. Planes in descent or level flight would fly/glide in uncontrolled descent more or less straight ahead until they crashed. Planes flying just above stall speed (usually during landing) would also stall quickly, but again would only spin if yaw forces were applied during the stall. In any case, without the ability to affect the control surfaces, they're all going to crash. So this discussion is more about artistic license used by the producers than actual aircraft flight characteristics. As a pilot, I just get annoyed by the wild and/or incorrect aircraft behavior depicted in TV/movies.

    I would imagine an airliner in a spin would be more of a nose down spiral than the flat spin depicted in the show, but since spins just don't happen in airliners and they aren't even tested for spin behavior as part of their certification process, I suppose the show could be accurate. I just find it highly unlikely.

    As an aside, I was wondering why the lights were still working on the planes as they fell when all other lights had failed.
     
  5. laria

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    I have a much harder time with the fact that they just happened to walk into the hotel and the uncle just happened to be the bartender 5 minutes after they apparently arrived in Chicago than "physics stopped working". :)
     
  6. Beryl

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    Or the Google guy could have weight 600 lbs 15 years ago.
     
  7. WO312

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    Easy. So they could show them falling wildly in the dark. You know, dramatic license. :rolleyes:
     
  8. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    What's hard to believe about that? They were told where to find him. They went there. He was there. You wanted it to be harder for them to find Miles even though they'd been told exactly where he was?
     
  9. Polcamilla

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    FYP.
     
  10. Polcamilla

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    Build a REALLY hot fire, melt sand, let it cool. Yeah, there's more to it than that, but that's enough to experiment with and work out the rest by trial and error. The materials are cheap enough, even in a post-apocalyptic world.
     
  11. Polcamilla

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    In Farmer Boy (one of the Little House on the Prairie books), they make ice cream like this:

    Winter: cut a LOT blocks of ice from the lake/pond/river. Spend quite a long time packing the ice blocks tightly with sawdust between and then coating the entire cube structure (the size of a garden shed give or take) with more sawdust and boarding it all up on all size with wood.

    Summer: Pry off a chunk of wood, dig out a block of ice, break it up and use it to make ice cream (with salt and some kind of human-powered churning mechanism).

    Getting vanilla beans would be the bigger problem.
     
  12. Polcamilla

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    All of this plus....WHERE DID ALL THE HOUSES AROUND WRIGLEY FIELD GO?!

    :eek:
     
  13. Polcamilla

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    Seriously? Oy vey!

    They REALLY should've spent the $500 or so to send a location scout to Chicago to at least *attempt* to document what the major landmarks they'd be using look like.

    I seriously thought it was supposed to be the kind of podunk community airport that the Confederate Air Force and others of that ilk fly out of on Sunday afternoons.
     
  14. Polcamilla

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    I don't understand how that helps prevent sagging breasts. :confused:
     
  15. Polcamilla

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    Okay....all caught up! :D

    Two things REALLY bugged me. The clothes. I was just ranting earlier today about how shoddy clothing construction/materials are now and they barely last a season. No way anything would last 15 years but there was a serious lack of anything homespun (except for on the one poor, chubby kid in the "class" at the beginning....I bet the other kids at "school" teased him because his parents made him wear their beige Renfaire tunic hand-me-down). But then, I used to point out to Spouse each time that Sun and Jin would pop over to the offscreen Lostaway Island Gap store and show up in fresh khakis and a crisp, new shirt.

    More irksome ('cause we all know that costume directors don't actually want to make all the clothes by hand) was the swords. The US has a good stockpile of REALLY crappy "exact-replica-of-the-sword-used-in-Highlander" type swords that MIGHT be capable of opening a letter if you're really dexterous and a SERIOUS shortage of good quality, functional swords. Your chances of getting a working antique sword in Europe wouldn't be half bad, but here in the US, I'd say there's maybe 1 good sword per 1000 people? Maybe?

    I know JUST enough about metalworking to know that while we could probably get some rudimentary tools made starting from nothing and given 15 years, there is simply no way we could get to the skill level of beautiful, balanced, strong steel blades in that time period. Getting and processing the ore alone would be a major challenge and that's not at all taking into account the necessary blacksmithing skills one would need to acquire. And as I said above, there just simply aren't enough antiques in the US to supply any kind of population.
     
  16. john4200

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    I don't think finding steel to recycle would be a problem. Finding someone who knows how to take steel scraps and turn them into a sword would be more difficult, but doable. Same thing for glass -- you wouldn't need to start with sand. Just recycle broken glass.
     
  17. laria

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    :confused:

    Who told them to go to the hotel? I thought that the dad just said he was in Chicago.
     
  18. madscientist

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    Nope the dad gave pretty explicit directions including the name of the hotel, not just "in Chicago".
     
  19. loubob57

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    I guess they felt they had to pack a lot of story line into the first hour. I think that is one of the major reasons for a lot of our discussion here. A 2-hour premiere might have been better. Hopefully they find a good pace in the next few episodes.
     
  20. laria

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    Hrm, ok, I guess I missed that part. :eek: I was too busy trying to figure out if they were really going to kill off the guy from The Good Wife or if he was just going to be badly wounded and couldn't go with her. :)
     

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