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Remote won't stay in RF mode

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by pwas, Sep 4, 2013.

  1. Feb 23, 2014 #81 of 135
    Time_Lord

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    The "new" unit does not appear to loose the RF signal as often, but when it does a single IR command to the Roamio restores the RF signal.

    The good news is you'll now have a spare remote as TiVo only wants the old DVR returned back the return instructions say not to return any of the accessories, cables, or paperwork.

    -TL
     
  2. Mar 30, 2014 #82 of 135
    gatorbait

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    I have had this problem off and on since August. After the remote screwed up last night and I could not get it to stop fast forwarding through the final 1 minute of the Arizona vs Wisconsin overtime I finally bought the slide remote today. I hope that provides a fix. Seems to be about the only idea that has produced some results. Crazy I have to spend $60 to get my Roamio to work.
     
  3. Apr 26, 2014 #83 of 135
    Mark Rubin

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    I have a similar story

    my problem started when Tivo replaced my 1 month old Roamio Pro with a new one because of an unrelated problem: the new box resolved that problem but now I have the remote switching back and forth RF to IR issue: on all 3 remotes: it happens within 5 feet range from the Tivo: the room has plenty of potential interference sources including a WAP

    but the original box was flawless with regard to RF remote control: so I traded one issue for another :(
     
  4. Jan 3, 2015 #84 of 135
    rgotchall

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    Is this resolved? I have the same issue (won't stay in RF mode).
    The crazy thing is that I seem to have two unrelated problems (I might not be alone).

    My setup is all of my AV equipment is in a cabinet about 15ft from the couch.

    Problem 1) I cannot just use RF all the time because it doesn't stay in RF mode along with many others. So the remote works fine for 10-15 presses then it goes to IR mode and does nothing.

    Now the weird thing is I wouldn't care, since I have a good IR repeater setup. IR works for everything else (AV receiver, DVD player) but it doesn't work at all for the Tivo. If I set up my Harmony remote for Tivo mode (IR only remote) it works with line of site to the Tivo but not over the repeater; it fails in IR transmission the same way the RED led button pushes on my tivo remote do.

    problem 2) I cannot seem to IR repeat the Tivo using either the Tivo remote or my Harmony remote.

    If either worked I wouldn't care. RF is ok, I would just put down the Harmony remote and use the Tivo remote for watching tv (volume controls ALWAYS work since it sends IR signals that work fine with the AV reciever). Or, if IR worked I could use either remote and just disable the RF.

    Earlier in this thread everyone was poo-pooing the guy who said the IR repeating didn't work and I can confirm it doesn't. I am using a high-end Xantech repeater that works with anything else.
     
  5. Jan 4, 2015 #85 of 135
    jmbissell

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    I continue to have Problem #1. If I sit on the couch and use the remote, it works in RF sporadically and usually only if I hold it in a certain position. However, I can get up and move to another room and it works dependably! TiVo replaced the remote months ago but both remotes have the same problem. I have 5GHz cordless phones in the room but even after moving the handsets far away the problem persists. The other rooms where the remote does work in RF also have phone extensions in them so I don't think that is the problem. Nor is my 2.4GHz/5GHz wireless router.

    It's very strange and I've just learned to put up with it since no solution seems to be forthcoming. Luckily, I do have line-of-sight to the TiVo from a position on the couch so I'm wondering if it somehow that causes it to revert to IR and not stay in RF mode.
     
  6. Jan 4, 2015 #86 of 135
    Mark Rubin

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    my solution was move the Tivo out of the rack: it is now on a wooden shelf in the equipment room: RF is much more stable

    jmbissell: I pointed the remote at the Tivo and it remained in RF mode
     
  7. Jan 4, 2015 #87 of 135
    L David Matheny

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    Can you just remove power from the cordless phones for testing purposes? And maybe try the same with the wireless router? Are there any surfaces in the TV room that might be reflective to RF? Maybe a section of wall covered in metal or metal foil on insulating board under drywall or whatever? I suppose it's possible that you could get multipath interference in the signal from the RF remote.

    I'm not sure how the choice between RF and IR is made. Does the TiVo always listen for both and then ignore the IR signal if an (intelligible) RF signal is also received?
     
  8. Apr 17, 2015 #88 of 135
    krkaufman

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    I can't speak for someone else's setup but we're using Powermid IR extenders to remotely control a Mini v2 down in a basement closet.

    Our setup:
    • Roamio & Slide Pro remotes (in IR mode, w/ remote address set to 2)
    • TiVo Mini v2
    • Powermid transmitters/receivers (both old and new models)
     
  9. Jul 24, 2015 #89 of 135
    redbeard25

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    I am having the same problem... and have for a long time.

    Why does the remote switch between RF and IR? How in the world could it "know" whether an RF signal would reach the Tivo? Is there anyway to force it into RF-only mode?
     
  10. Jul 25, 2015 #90 of 135
    ej42137

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    You could put electrical tape over the IR window, but then you couldn't control the auxiliary devices like your TV from the TiVo remote.

    A better way might be to set the IR address of the remote to something you don't use, like address 9, and set all your TiVo receivers to some other IR address. This is what I have done.

    Link to thread discussing how to change IR addresses on TiVo remotes and receivers.
     
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2015
  11. Jul 25, 2015 #91 of 135
    redbeard25

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    Here's the problem though. I want it yellow (RF) all the time. When I press the Tivo buttons (like, say, the "Tivo" button,) it goes

    yellow
    yellow
    yellow
    red
    yellow
    yelllow
    red
    red
    red
    red
    yellow
    yellow

    It's like the remote itself is saying, "I'm not going to even try RF. I'm just going to go IR for this press."
     
  12. Jul 25, 2015 #92 of 135
    aaronwt

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    It sounds like something is wrong. I use six remotes in rf mode and they stay in rf mode unless I take it out of range. And I would need to go to the other end of my condo to go out of range. It is pretty far.
     
  13. Jul 25, 2015 #93 of 135
    RoyK

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    Same frequently happens to me too. It comes and goes. Very frustrating especially when trying to stop a fast forward. I even bought a new remote but the same thing happens with it.
     
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  14. Jul 26, 2015 #94 of 135
    bbrown9

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    Mine just started doing this recently. I thought it might be the batteries but it says 80% or something like that on the info screen. I tried changing them anyway just in case the info screen isn't accurate. It made no difference.
     
  15. Jul 26, 2015 #95 of 135
    krkaufman

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    If your remote is having trouble maintaining its RF connection, you may consider adjusting the location of the associated Mini or DVR. My connectivity improved when I moved my Mini from just behind/below our 65" Sony LCD to about 5-ft to its left.
     
  16. Jul 27, 2015 #96 of 135
    bbrown9

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    Nothing has changed with my setup, though. The TiVo and the TV are both in the same locations for a long time. I'm sitting the same disatance away. The remote just started acting funny. I wonder if this one is just on its way out and I should get a new one.
     
  17. Jul 27, 2015 #97 of 135
    Teeps

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    My Roamio remote exhibits the same or similar behavior as in post #91.
    Has done this since new.
    But because of this thread I did not seek a remedy from TiVo...
    Guess we are all still waiting for that vapor-ware Margarete implied was coming.
     
  18. Jul 27, 2015 #98 of 135
    RoyK

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    If it works fine sometimes and gets flakey sometimes it's the same problem many of us are seeing. A new remote won't help, I can testify to that.
     
  19. Jul 28, 2015 #99 of 135
    El Maestro

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    I am sure you tried this, but...

    I was having this problem and it was really slowing the TiVo down...I think the remote was sometimes sending IR and RF at the same time, and some button presses would cause stutters/hiccups in video and audio. I re-paired the remote with the Roamio and now it stays in RF mode and I no longer have the stutter issue on button presses. I had to do this once or twice in succession and it's been fine for months.
     
  20. redbeard25

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    I didn't think of that, but I just did it, and it seems to help. Odd that it could get in a "partially paired" state. Thanks!
     

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