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Released: TiVo Commander

Discussion in 'TiVo Underground' started by arantius, Aug 15, 2011.

  1. pullmyfinger

    pullmyfinger New Member

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    If you look at the physical TIVO remote, it has these buttons and if you looked at the soft remote on this app it also has these buttons but they are grey'd out. So volume and power ALSO happen on a TIVO remote and I was wondering if anyone besides you can help answer this question. This seems like a great app, but it should also allow this remote feature that the TIVO remote allows.
     
  2. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

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    How would you propose the phone send the commands to the TV? TiVo's own iPad app doesn't support what you want.
     
  3. weinberk

    weinberk Confirmed Doofis

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    It's working wonderfully here.

    3 (nitpicky) suggestions:

    1) Have the application switch between different tivos more easily. Currently you need to go to settings, select the tivo, then ok to the MAK. How about just having a simple drop down box that you can select between the multiple tivos? If a mak changes or something, then you'd need to go to settings, but how often does that really happen?? This would be just a bit more intuitive.

    2) On all screens, show which tivo we're working with. This is especially important with the remote screen.

    3) If at all possible, let us browse one tivo's recordings from another to initiate a MRV transfer to the room that we're in. That would be really cool.


    Thanks so much for this wonderful program!
     
  4. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

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    No one else is going to give you a different answer. I could go into more detail, but it would come to the same end.

    On a regular TiVo remote, most of the buttons do this:

    Play --> infrared --> TiVo

    while volume and power buttons do this:

    Vol+ --> infrared --> TV

    On a Slide remote with the Bluetooth adapter hooked up, most of the buttons do this:

    Play --> BlueTooth --> TiVo

    but volume and power still do this:

    Vol+ --> infrared --> TV

    It can do this because the Slide is still a fully-capable infrared remote. Now, let's take a look at a network remote. Most buttons do this:

    Play --> TCP/IP --> TiVo

    but volume and power do... nothing. Because you don't have an infrared port on the device where you're running the network remote, do you?* And you have no other way to talk to the TV.

    The TiVo does not control the TV volume. The TiVo does not control the TV power. You can control these functions with a TiVo remote, because, and only because, the remote talks directly to the TV.

    You can send volume and power codes to the TiVo with the network interface, and it will dutifully record them in its log of all your remote keystrokes. But that's all it can do with them.

    An HDMI setup could theoretically change this situation... but as far as I know, TiVo has made no provision for that yet.

    * And even if you do have an infrared port, it's probably not compatible. Back in the heyday of PDAs, they all came with IrDA ports, which were theoretically handy for talking to other PDAs or PCs, but generally wouldn't talk to TVs. There was a nice universal remote program for WinCE, but it didn't do anything on most PocketPCs, because the IrDA hardware wasn't up to the task of generating a signal a TV could understand. Nowadays, the Android phone that's replaced your PDA probably doesn't do infrared at all.
     
  5. zekeisaszekedoes

    zekeisaszekedoes New Member

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    Works great on a Virgin Media TiVo... thumbnails don't load but all the rest is fine as long as you manually enter IP/MAK/TSN details.

    So it works on the LAN but now I'm trying to get it working across the WAN, so if I want to schedule a recording when I'm away from home I can, using 3G or someone elses WiFi. I've opened port 1413 but when port checking it with GRC ShieldsUp! site it says it is stealthed, as if the TiVo has a firewall or I need to open more ports on the router.

    Any ideas?
     
  6. Amnesia

    Amnesia The Question

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    The market link in the OP doesn't work...
     
  7. arantius

    arantius New Member

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    Late last night, TiVo sent a takedown request for this app to the Android Market, on trademark infringement claims. It was honored, and thus this app was removed.

    Time will tell what happens to rectify this. If you have graphic design skills you could probably help me hasten that.
     
  8. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Sad day. For a long time now TiVo has stopped promoting any kind of 3rd development, and now they are actively campaigning against it. Oh well it was nice while it lasted...
     
  9. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

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    Wow that is bad. Did you use any files or images from TiVo? Unless they had a problem with the name and they are afraid it will be confused with the official TiVo app which may be on the way.
     
  10. brentil

    brentil New Member

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    I'm actually rather surprised it's taken this long for them to request it removed as the images & logos used looked exactly like theirs. I finish my masters this semester so if I have time afterwards I'd like to pitch in myself to help.
     
  11. lart2150

    lart2150 tivo>lart

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    lame move tivo. On a side note I was able to download, compile, and side load from source.

    Was the take down in regards to the image of the remote?
     
  12. megazone

    megazone Hardcore TiVo Geek

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  13. jqkurz

    jqkurz New Member

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    Just loaded it on my Kindle Fire and it works great. Thanks.
     
  14. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Thanks for the info. If I get a fire this is what I will use it for.
     
  15. fergiet

    fergiet New Member

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    Great little app. Hope you get it sorted.

    :confused::confused::confused:
     
  16. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Has any one used TiVo commander on a Pandigital Novel eReader? I just picked one up from NewEgg for $70. You are supposed to be able to put android 2.1 on it so I'm hoping TiVo commander will work fine on it. I figure I only plan to use it with the TiVo. Then when the larger Kindle Fire comes out next year I will pick that up.
     
  17. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    This is great. I got this working on my $70 Pandigital Novel(7 inch White). I'm glad I was able to get this to work instead of paying $200 for the Kindle Fire
     
  18. thatwilsonguy

    thatwilsonguy New Member

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    Is there any possibility of creating an app for Google TV that uses the same method for searching Tivo's DVR as Tivo commander and adding it to the search results on Google TV?
     
  19. brentil

    brentil New Member

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    arantius, do you have a a To Do list or bug list you want help working on? I just synced your newest version with the basic remote in it and want to contribute.

    That sounds very possible to work on as the new Android tools add Google TV as a development source to work against.
     
  20. arantius

    arantius New Member

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    Master no longer has the self-made icons and crappy remote, FWIW.

    But: Not really. I've got a few TODO comments in the code, and https://github.com/arantius/TiVo-Commander/issues . As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, some users would like to see the guide, the todo/season pass list, and related management features (remove scheduled recordings?).

    But at least for now I can't distribute this, so take that into account before you invest your time.
     

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