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Recomended Bolt Internal Hard Drive

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by rick123, Nov 22, 2016.

  1. Dec 2, 2016 #21 of 112
    aaronwt

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    I use MFS Reformatter (mfsr) on every drive it's capable of working with. 2TB drives and larger.
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    MFS Reformatter (mfsr)
     
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  2. Dec 2, 2016 #22 of 112
    dianebrat

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    IMNSHO no, it's not needed, you can drop the Toshiba in and the Bolt will format it on its own, obviously not all members agree :)
     
  3. Dec 3, 2016 #23 of 112
    ggieseke

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    I think it's worth a few extra minutes even on a 3TB drive to align all of the MFS zones properly for AF drives, but Diane is right. It will work fine with the factory layout. The media zones are the ones that really matter and TiVo started aligning them properly when the Roamios were introduced.
     
  4. Dec 3, 2016 #24 of 112
    cpm0813

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    I also bought a refurb 500 GB Bolt with Lifetime during the sale and was planning to upgrade the HD. I was going to go with the recommended drive on A Guide to Upgrading Your Tivo Bolt, Tivo Premiere, Tivo Roamio, Tivo Roamio OTA, Tivo HD, Tivo Series 3 or Tivo Series 2 (Easily upgrade your Tivo Bolt, Roamio or Premiere to 300 Hours+ HD Capacity) - Also includes instructions on how to fix a broken Tivo. , but now I am seeing posts about problems with the recommended 4 TB drive on these forums. I am quite confused about my options now and would appreciate some help. Thanks.
     
  5. Dec 3, 2016 #25 of 112
    oryan_dunn

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    At this point, it seems the safest options are the Toshiba 3TB or the WD 3TB. The WD is generally not available, so that leaves the Toshiba as the best one for now. My Toshiba should be here Monday.

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  6. Dec 4, 2016 #26 of 112
    cpm0813

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    Do you mean MQ03ABB300? I would like something I can get on Amazon. Also, if I was okay with just 2 TB, then what would you recommend? Thanks.
     
  7. Dec 4, 2016 #27 of 112
    oryan_dunn

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    Yeah, that's the drive. I've bought other stuff from OWC in the past, so I had no problem ordering from them. I ordered Friday, and the drive will be here tomorrow; they ship from near Chicago via first class, so it's fast shipping. Unfortunately, I didn't look any further than the MQ03ABB300 as that seemed to fit the bill for me, and didn't have any complaints here.
     
  8. Dec 5, 2016 #28 of 112
    jg123

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    Someone in another post mentioned the WD drives were too thick to fit in the brackets.

    Edit: here's the link: New Bolt in the house - upgrade underway

    I am going the external 3.5" drive with an eSata to SATA cable. We'll see how it goes!
     
  9. Dec 5, 2016 #29 of 112
    aaronwt

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    As long as it's 15mm or thinner it will fit. My 4TB drives are 15mm thick and they have no problem fitting in my Bolt's. Granted it's right on the edge of the size that will fit in there, but no clips break etc. If you are using a 15 mm drive and your clips are breaking, you are doing something wrong. I've messed with five Bolts installing my two, 4TB drives in them. And never broke any clips because of the thickness of the hard drive.
     
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  10. Dec 5, 2016 #30 of 112
    Mad Davey

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    Do TiVo updates install to the TiVo or to the hdd?
     
  11. Dec 5, 2016 #31 of 112
    jmbach

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    For Bolts and Roamios the OS resides on a flash drive that gets updated. The update, I believe, transiently is downloaded to the hard drive until the flash is updated.
     
  12. Dec 6, 2016 #32 of 112
    Mad Davey

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    Is there any way to verify the unit has formatted and will be using the full 3tb?
     
  13. Dec 6, 2016 #33 of 112
    jmbach

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    Look here.
     
  14. Dec 6, 2016 #34 of 112
    aaronwt

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    Whenever I put I new hard drive in a TiVo, the first thing I do is fill it up with content to make sure there are no issues. Whether the drive is 1TB, 4TB, or 5TB I spend the next week filling it up with long 12 hour + recordings and transfers from other TiVos and transfers from KMTTG.
     
  15. Dec 6, 2016 #35 of 112
    oryan_dunn

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    So, I got the Toshiba drive installed, and I now have a 3TB Bolt! Yay!...

    But something I noticed that I hadn't seen anyone else mention... where the 500GB AV drive was silent, you can hear the ticking as the heads move in the Toshiba. It's not really loud, but very noticeable compared to the silent operation of the stock WD drive.

    So, I'm a bit conflicted as to what to do. I could just live with it, put the stock drive back in and live with that, put the stock drive back in and wait for a larger capacity AV drive that will be silent, or get a 1TB AV drive like what's in the 1TB Bolt.

    The Bolt will be in the basement man cave, which I don't use that often, so the noise will normally never be an issue; but, when I'm playing games or watching movies, I have a feeling it'll be annoying.

    Edit: Well, looking into the specs, it seems the 1TB WD AV drive may not be much of an upgrade (sound wise) and the 500GB seems to be exceptionally quiet...
    WD5000LUCT: 17dBA idle, 22dBA seek Wd Av-25 Wd5000luct 500 Gb 2.5 Internal Hard Drive - Sata - 5400 Rpm - 16 Mb Buffer-Newegg.com
    WD10JUCT: 24dBA idle, 25dBA seek Western Digital WD10JUCT WD AV 2.5-inch 1TB 5400 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive-Newegg.com
    MQ03ABB300: 25dBA idle, 25dBA seek http://toshiba.semicon-storage.com/...ual/Specialty-MQ03ABBxxx-Product-Overview.pdf

    I suppose I will likely just stick with the Toshiba.
     
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  16. Dec 6, 2016 #36 of 112
    Mad Davey

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    THANKS Jmbach,

    To update their information in the link that did help, it is now:

    From TiVo Central > Settings & Messages > (on BOLTs > Help > ) Help > Account & System Info
     
  17. Jan 2, 2017 #37 of 112
    cpm0813

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    So what is the current 2TB recommended drive for a Bolt? Thanks.
     
  18. Jan 2, 2017 #38 of 112
    aaronwt

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    You can hear the ticking with the 500GB drive too when reading/writing a bunch of streams. You can hear this with every platter hard drive made. My 4TB drives sound similar to the 500GB stock drive. When it's reading/writing a bunch of streams that's when you easily hear the ticking. Of course it there is some ambient noise, it's not an issue.
     
  19. Jan 12, 2017 #39 of 112
    scht99

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    Posted in the mfsr thread too. Will mfsr work on s 2TB drive?

    I had a 3TB smr drive from seagate. Lasted about a year in the Bolt. I put a 2TB seagate barracuda 2.5 in and it lasted about a month!!!

    Looking for any recommendation to improve reliability. Should I just go external and use a red drive? I hate having an extra box, but I can't have tivo dying.
     
  20. Jan 12, 2017 #40 of 112
    sfhub

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    I was under the impression mfsr aligns all the partitions, but even if you don't use it, TiVo will align the main video partitions.
     

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