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Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by clark_kent, Jul 22, 2012.
There are just too many variables involved to make such a statement as if it were a fact.
Another great thing is that tivo has the option for users to delete things from the RDF as they see fit.
Add me in to those that are mystified by people that can't (won't) see beyond the limits of their self imposed blinders
No, that's not true, because Recently Deleted items can be removed TO MAKE MORE SPACE FOR SUGGESTIONS.
Otherwise, there would essentially never be room for more suggestions.
good lord, I don't care how many variables you throw in, with Suggestions enabled I have never EVER on an S3, a THD, a Premiere, or my Elite seen a deleted item make it over night, you don't have to always be right, occasionally being close is a fine answer.
that was just uncalled for, there was no reason to quote me on it.
I have no idea about suggestions in the Recently deleted folder. I don't see a reason to delete a suggestion since they aren't even counted for the storage space available.. They all disappear pretty quickly. WIth my boxes constantly recording them, each box quickly went well past 100 suggestions. The list is constantly changing as they get recorded and deleted.
I have suggestions turned off. I have more than enough stuff to watch as it is. But I could see a reason for deleting a suggestion - if it was something you didn't want to watch or did watch and you wanted to make sure it didn't delete an older suggestion unless it absolutely had to.
As to whether the TiVo would make better viewing choices, I'm going to (slightly) misquote and conflate two verses of a song. This is not a commentary and is intended all in fun and to partly show how my warped mind works
Most would recommend against passing off your personal experience as universal fact. What people should be learning here (if they haven't already learned fro one of the hundreds of other threads on the topic) some people, like you, let a tivo manage itself while others micromanage their tivos with a whole lot of people somewhere between the extremes.
Being wrong, isn't being close.
This pretty much proves my point.
If that was uncalled for, so was your quoted naive statement.
Are you saying my comment on the behavior of the deleted items folders on Suggestion recording machines that I have personally watched over many years is wrong? and if so, how is it wrong?
dot (waiting for scandia's reply).
I can't speak for scandia but I'm assuming part of the issue is that your original post was phrased as an absolute.
That might make it seem like turning on suggestions also set a hard time limit on deleted items (rather than suggestions displacing deleted items)
If you'd phrased it more like:
"In my exprience, on a variety of TiVos over the years, enabling suggestions will push things out of deleted items within about a day."
I don't think anyone could reasonably take issue with it. It was phrasing it as an apparently universal truth; rather than a personal (if prolonged) observation that probably triggered that (over)reaction.
Now I can think of a few oddball situations, mostly involving starting with a near empty TiVo, were suggestions couldn't purge deleted items in a day.
Take a brand new Premier XL for example. It can hold over a hundred hours of HD content. So record and delete a couple shows, then kick on suggestions. Even if it used both tuners 24 hours a day it'd take a few days to fill up and displace those deleted items.
Or I guess if you thumbsed down every suggestion eventually you'd run the TiVo out of things to suggest and it'd take far longer to displace deleted items.
That's still assuming that the user allows the tivo to manage itself rather than the user deleting recordings from the NPL and/or the RDF as they see fit. That's where the "too many variables" enters the picture.
FWIW, I have had the RDF folder count against my space when I've done transfers with pyTivo. Stuff has failed to transfer until i have deleted items in there. And that is with suggestions turned off.
While you are at it, convince her that she likes it when the Tivo queues up remote presses, and then runs them all together a few minutes later. Encourage her to watch all the shows on 1 channel. The more she stays on 1 channel the more agreeable the remote control Tivo experience will become.