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Recently Deleted Folder

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by clark_kent, Jul 22, 2012.

  1. clark_kent

    clark_kent Member

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    2 questions:

    1. Does anyone know if there is an easy way to delete all content in the folder?

    2. The programs in the deleted folder, are they included in the disk space usage indicator?

    Thank you.
     
  2. lujan

    lujan Member

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    1. Can't be done
    2. No, this is not included in the disk space usage indicator.

    PS. Say hi to Lois for me, ok?
     
  3. compnurd

    compnurd New Member

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    you can go in there and delete each program again one by one
     
  4. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    I wonder why people feel the need to delete shows from the RDF?

    I can understand for those who record a lot of porn. ;)
     
  5. awsnyde

    awsnyde Member

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    "I wonder why people feel the need to delete shows from the RDF?"

    An@l retentive. And I can say that, because I am @n@l retentive. Worst of all, I'm a procrastinating @n@l retentive, so I would LIKE to have my deleted items folder empty, but I never actually get around to it. ;)
     
  6. clark_kent

    clark_kent Member

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    I didn't know TiVo could record porn... :eek:

    Here's the story: I like Lois :eek: so I helped her set up her new XL4 with Suggestion turned on. Also explained to her how to "improve" the suggested recordings.

    Well, with 4 tuners going 24/7 Lois's Suggestions folder was up to a bazillion recordings in no time at all... and Lois was not a happy girl!! :confused:

    Turned off Suggestions, deleted the Suggestions folder. But, all the suggested recordings turned up in her Deleted folder :( and Lois was still not a happy gal :mad:

    Then, Lois wanted to know if the programs in her Deleted folder was waisting her disk space? I told her that she needn't concern her pretty head since anything in her Deleted folder would be automatically removed to make room for any of her important new recordings. She sighed and said: what about the disk usage indicator :confused: Since I didn't know the Truthful answer, I came to you guys :)

    Lois is happy to know that the stuff in her deleted folder is not included in her disk usage. But, she's still not happy with me since even I can't delete all the programs in her Deleted folder in one single fell swoop.

    PS Lois sends her regards :D
     
  7. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    FYI, Tivo Suggestions are also excluded from the usage indicator.
     
  8. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    One of the great things about a TiVo is that it will automatically delete the content for you. And once they are in the deleted folder it really shouldn't matter. And even with suggestions. WHether I have 200 or 20. They will eventually get deleted on their own. It isn't even worth the effort to delete them since the TiVo will do it for me. I will look at them periodically and see if there is something I want to watch or keep but otherwise they sit there with new suggestions being recorded and old ones being deleted.

    And after using TiVos for over a decade I only recently started using the suggestions feature. Both my Elites are recording suggestions from their eight tuners many times throughout the day.
     
  9. spinhar1

    spinhar1 New Member

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    I am just one of those people that need to keep my TiVos clean, so I delete all from the deleted files.
     
  10. sharkster

    sharkster Well-Known Member

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    Aaron - At what point would the Tivos automatically delete the deleted stuff?

    Glad somebody asked these questions as I have wondered also. I hate clutter and am compelled to delete them frequently. It just bugs me if they collect up.

    Before upgrading to Premieres this year I had Series 2 Tivos and it sure seems like they deleted them fairly frequently, but I have yet to see anything auto-deleted from the folder on my Premieres. Granted, I am in there all the time myself but I have one show from months ago that I have left there and it's still there.
     
  11. dianebrat

    dianebrat I refuse to accept your reality TCF Club

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    If you're recording suggestions the Deleted Items folder purges within 24 hours

    Add me in to those mystified as to why anyone even cares about the Deleted items folder.
     
  12. compnurd

    compnurd New Member

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    The folder is convenient because i cant tell you how many times i have accidentally hit clear on a program and had to recover it
     
  13. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    Well, FWIW, there was some reports a while back that when a large DIY expanded drive filled up, there might be some problems. Vague and unconfirmed, I know, but they were there.
     
  14. sharkster

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    Thanks for your response. I don't do 'suggestions' so my folder is only populated with stuff I've either manually recorded or from SPs.

    I was glad when they started the 'recently deleted' folder as I have had things I wanted to recover on more than one occasion. But since I got Premieres it seems like it doesn't purge itself or, if it does, it doesn't do so in a manner that is acceptable for me. It's no biggie to keep up on it. I'd rather keep it clean because my head would probably explode if I didn't. :D
     
  15. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    Automatic permanent deletion of a recording should only happen when the TiVo needs the space for a new recording. I don't know if it is strictly oldest first or if it deletes suggestions first.
     
  16. sharkster

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    Thanks, James. That makes sense. You are very helpful and I always try to read your answers to peoples' questions because I often learn something new. :)
     
  17. aaronwt

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    Suggestions have the lowest priority so they get deleted first.
     
  18. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    So the order of automatic permanent deletion would be:

    Suggestions in Recently Deleted
    Other stuff in Recently Deleted
    Suggestions in NPL (not marked KUID)
    Other stuff in NPL (not marked KUID)

    ?
     
  19. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    Convince her that she wants to have shows in the Recently Deleted folder. There may be that one time she wants to rewatch 'that show' from 2 weeks ago and she will be able to do so, as long as Suggestions are turned off.

    She need not worry about the Suggestions folder if she chooses to turn Suggestions back on. Suggestions will be deleted as needed to make room for sheduled recordings and auto record wishlists.
    Also, when the hard drive is full, I believe the new Suggestions start deleting old Suggestions.

    For a new Tivo, I recommend turning off Suggestions at first. Otherwise the Tivo is recording stuff blindly.

    Show her how to get to the Tivo Suggestions list and encourage her to go through and rate the shows that are listed.
    The more shows she rates, the better Suggestions will be. Maybe enough to make her want to turn recording of Suggestions back on.
     
  20. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    I believe that once a show is in the RDF, they are deleted by oldest date regardless of why they were recorded.

    When the Tivo has to resort to deleting Suggestions or shows from the My Shows list, the RDF will be empty at that point.

    The order of permanent deletion is:
    Recently Deleted, oldest recording first.
    Suggestions (if applicable), oldest recording first.
    Shows from the My Shows list, oldest recording first.
     

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