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Read this if you want to use your Series2 DVR with a wireless adapter

Discussion in 'TiVo Help Center' started by TiVoStephen, Dec 27, 2003.

  1. Nov 3, 2004 #141 of 465
    Pho Real

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    If I leave the adapter in for the boot.... constant reboots/freezes while the tivo man is jumping.

    Been about 35 days since I bought it. Who do I contact Toshiba?
     
  2. Nov 3, 2004 #142 of 465
    bedelman

    bedelman Call me Bob

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    Crystal...
    I believe you need to start with Toshiba since the unit carries their name.
     
  3. Nov 3, 2004 #143 of 465
    Pho Real

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    I unplugged it and let it sit overnight.

    Tried to start it up with the USB plugged in.

    Rebooted before it even made it through the dancing Tivo man screen.
     
  4. mrjam2jab

    mrjam2jab Still Learning

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    If this is indeed the case....why even bother connecting the two?

    I have 2 TIVO and had considered linking the 2 w/o a PC involved, but after reading this....maybe not. :(
     
  5. msdonnelly

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    Fuquay-Varin...
    I'm pretty unsophisticated with this whole network stuff and being at the end of the earth I have to buy electronics over the internet. Just tried to hook up my Toshiba with a Linksys WUSB11 and it does absolutely nothing! After searching this forum I found all the references to version numbers and discovered the network adapter I have is version 4! Since I can't search through store inventory to find an older version, how long will it be before a software upgrade will let me use a version 4 network adapter?
     
  6. malacoda

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    Hopefully this will help a few people who were suffering the same wireless connection symptoms as me.

    I have a new series 2 (540 service to be exact), a DWL-122 wireless adapter, and a Buffalo G54 AirStation w/ Repeater).

    After complete phone line set up and an additional follow-up phone line connect I was still getting a "no DHCP client" error when I tried to connect via wireless with get TCP/IP automatically, etc.

    If I tried manually entering an IP adddress, subnet mask, etc. I got the error "Gateway (router) Not Found".

    1 iBook and 2 wireless PC with a mix of AppleAirport, D-Link, and Buffalo adapters have no problem connecting to the router or repeater.

    Turns out that the Tivo (or possibly the DWL-122) were having trouble with the ASCII 64bit encryption.

    I switched to hexidecimal, set the TiVo wireless settings to hexidecimal and autodetect for the TCP/IP and it immediately found a connection. Ran a connection test with immediate success, and verified it by connecting to TiVo service to perform a connection and update.

    In short, make sure you use hexidecimal encryption.

    Good Luck.
     
  7. tvaddict

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    I searched up and down for solutions to this issue, and I saw that other people had the same problems, and lots of them were solved, but no solutions seem to have been posted... so:

    Last night, we bought a new D-Link DI-624 (802.11g) wireless router, and I can't seem to get my Tivos to receive a signal from it, even if I put the access point directly on top of the router (I'm using Linksys WUSB11 wireless access points on both of my Tivos). Everything used to work fine with our old Linksys 802.11b router, until I dropped it. :(

    When I go through Tivo's network settings config, it sees my network's SSID, and I've tried all combos of WEP keys (disabled/hex/ascii), but still Tivo doesn't get an IP address, nor does it see any signal broadcast (under signal strength, it's just blank, no % or anything). With the Linksys in place, I'd still see a signal strength, even if I didn't have the right password, I just wouldn't be able to access it until I entered the password. But now, I'm seeing nothing.

    There's a post in the Tivo Help Center that says:
    Anyone know what this refers to? Is there really an "extra character at the beginning of the string" that I should know about? Anyone else have any idea what I should try next before I return the DI-624 and buy another Linksys (same as I had before)?

    TIA!

    Edited to add - I've ensured that the router is NOT set to 802.11g only mode. And Transfer Speed is set to 'auto'.
     
  8. mikequig

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    Why is it so difficult to get the USB adapter working? I've made two rather long trips back and forth to Fry's Electronics for 2 different pairs of adaptors for my TiVos and I still can't get a suitable adaptor.

    Can someone explain why TiVo can't or won't update the software to work with adaptors that are readily available? It seems like it's damn hard to find wireless B adaptors -- but there are tons and tons of USB G adaptors out there (which should be backwards compatible).

    I tried a pair of Microsoft USB-B adaptors (didn't work!) before I read the TiVo approved list. Then tried a Linksys WUSB11 adaptor - but didn't figure out that I had V4 until I opened the box (the version number is actually printed on the outside of the box - it's kinda like a Find Waldo exercise to figure it out though). They didn't work either.

    Is there anything in the works that would make these WUSB11 v4 adaptors work (like in the next few weeks or so) or am I going to have to make a 3rd trip to Fry's to take them back and give up (they didn't have any of the other "approved" adaptors in stock.)?

    I already wrote an unhappy letter to TiVo corporate about this percieved lack of support. Is there any reason out there for optimism?

    Mike Q. in L.A.
     
  9. ccwf

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    Many equipment manufacturers do not write drivers for anything but recent versions of Windows and do not release the information necessary for others to write drivers for their devices.
     
  10. Dec 1, 2004 #150 of 465
    ElVee

    ElVee I have an old sumo

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    I have two TiVo's on my home network.

    The first is a Sony SV2000R, with a Turbonet card.

    The second is a Sony SV3000R Series II which I originally had wired to the network.

    A few months ago I got a WUSB11 adapter and a Linksys WRTG54 wireless router. I just got the wireless set up a few months ago and things have been working pretty well.

    I used to have the computer equiptment and the Series II TiVo in the same room. When I would look at the Phone & Network Setup screen on the TiVo, I would get a signal of close to 100%.

    I recently moved the computer equiptment to an upstairs room. Now, I usually see a signal of between 45-55%. If I watch this screen for a while it alternates between showing an IP address and saying 'supplied by server'.

    I noticed this morning that both TiVo's failed to update last night. I rebooted the Wireless Router and was able to update the Series I. After many attempts, I was finally able to update the Series II.

    Could this be happening because of the weaker signal or could I have messed something else up?
     
  11. Dec 1, 2004 #151 of 465
    bedelman

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    Crystal...
    It shouldn't drop out just because of the weaker signal. However, you might be getting either some interference from something like a 2.4GHz phone -- or you might be picking up someone else's wireless network.

    Is the wireless network name (SSID) of your router set to "linksys"? If it is, there might be another "linksys" network near you that is causing confusion on the wireless connection. ("linksys" is the default SSID value used by Linksys wireless routers -- just like Negear uses "NETGEAR" and D-Link uses "default")
     
  12. Dec 1, 2004 #152 of 465
    bosox18

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    I have the exact same problem as Ron90069 (Post #95).

    I plugged in the Netgear MA111, supposedly compatible, with my Tivo2 series (540???) and it worked immediately. It was recognized by the Tivo, received a good signal, called in fine.

    This didn't last, however. After somewhere between 10 minutes and (the record) 90 minutes, the MA111 is no longer recognized as being attached to the Tivo. Sometimes the green power light goes off, sometimes it remains on, but in either case, Tivo doesn't think anything is attached.

    If I unplug it and plug it back in, everything is fine for a few more minutes.

    I've tried everything, booting and rebooting the router, the cable modem, the Tivo. Nothing works. If this is incompatible with my version, I sure wish it was mentioned.

    Frustrated in upstate N.Y.
     
  13. Dec 1, 2004 #153 of 465
    bedelman

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    Crystal...
    I've had a similar experience but I know of others for whom the MA111 has worked. Personally, I think it was an incompatibility between the chipset in the MA111 and the Lucent chipset that was in my Apple Airport Base Station. I ended up switching over to a Belkin adapter (I didn't change anything else -- just swapped out the adapter), and my problem went away.
     
  14. Dec 2, 2004 #154 of 465
    ElVee

    ElVee I have an old sumo

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    I changed the name from linksys to something else the first day I installed it. I also disabled the broadcast of the SSID, changed from channel 11 and enabled WEP encryption.

    I do have a 2.4 GHz phone, but I don't have a problem using my laptop from the same room as the Series II TiVo.

    Do you think somthing like the Linksys WRE54G Wireless G-Range Expander or a Linksys WAP54G Wireless-G Access Point would help?

    From the Linksys Web Site:
    "The Wireless-G Range Expander is compatible with the Linksys WAP54G Access Point, and both the WRT54G and WRT54GS Wireless Routers. It works with both Wireless-G and Wireless-B clients so you'll get the benefits of increased coverage, even with a mixed network."
     
  15. Dec 2, 2004 #155 of 465
    bedelman

    bedelman Call me Bob

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    Crystal...
    I have no experience with the Linksys extenders. I'm using WDS (wireless distribution system) to connect an Apple Airport Extreme and an Airport Express together though. I have one TiVo that only got about 35% signal and I didn't have any dropout issues with it at all (that was before the WDS work -- after the WDS its signal is now about 52%)
     
  16. Dec 2, 2004 #156 of 465
    Flick599

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    Just got a Netgear MA111 last night, and after several frustrating attempts to get Tivo to see it, I realized that it was a v2, which Tivo notes is not compatible. My question is what is the difference between v1 and v2 that make v2 not compatible?

    Thanks,

    Chris
     
  17. Dec 2, 2004 #157 of 465
    bedelman

    bedelman Call me Bob

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    Crystal...
    Although the case may be the same, the electronics inside the case are completely different. The newer versions are usually produced to take advantage of lower priced components which reduce the production costs. Since the chipset is usually changed, the new "version" needs an entirely different driver.
     
  18. Dec 3, 2004 #158 of 465
    ElVee

    ElVee I have an old sumo

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    As for the weak signal, as per tivo.com, I moved the USB adapter further away from the TiVo and the signal has now jumped to 70-80%.

    I still get the back and forth between having an IP address and not.

    I just unplugged my 2.4 GHz phone and the IP has not dropped for 15 minutes (before it was more like every minute).

    So sounds like that could be the problem. Is there anything I can do, short of getting a new phone, to eliminate/reduce the interference?
     
  19. Dec 3, 2004 #159 of 465
    ccwf

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    Changing the phone type is the sure-fire solution. Other things that might help a bit:
    • Try changing the wireless to use channel 11, 1, or 6. Many people report 11 has fewer problems with 2.4GHz phones.
    • Move the phone's base as far away from your wireless access point as possible.
    • Use the phone with the antenna down.
     
  20. Dec 3, 2004 #160 of 465
    ElVee

    ElVee I have an old sumo

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    Unfortunately, the phone base is downstairs, almost directly under the wireless router and neither one can be moved. I tried putting the phone base antenna down, but that did not help.

    I'm already using channel 6. I'll try going to channel 1 or back to channel 11.

    If nothing else works, I will either look into the 5.4 MGhz phones or go back to my old 900 MGhz.
     

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