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Read this if you want to use your Series2 DVR with a wireless adapter

Discussion in 'TiVo Help Center' started by TiVoStephen, Dec 27, 2003.

  1. May 10, 2004 #61 of 465
    AtlCub

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    Well I got my TurboNet/CacheCard in my series 1, got it on the wired network, and it too won't connect. The test call works, just like the Series2, but a real call gets part way thru, then hangs, then eventually comes back failed.

    Being hardwired that eliminates my wifi network, so it must be my Netgear FVS318. I've even tried setting the DMZ port to the IP of the Tivo, still got same thing, so now I'm really stumped unless the dmz setting somehow just didn't take.

    I tried the web sites to see if I'm behind a caching server, I am not.

    My only other hardware is my Alcatel 1000 DSL modem, straight to bellsouth.

    Does anyone know of MTU comes into play here ? As a kludge with the Alcatel 1000's, there is a malformed packet issue with them, that is corrected if you put a dumb plain ole 10mb hub inbetween the Alcatel and the FVS318, it fixes the problem. I was told it was either a packet header issue, or an MTU issue.

    But why would the test call connect, configure, set clock, and hang up cleanly, then the daily call would not. ?? :(

    So all this effort is worthless to me for daily calls.

    Sure I love ripping the 190hours of video off my Series1 tho :)

    And HomeNetworking option is a waste, everytime it tries to get a directory from my mp3 server (win2000 Server), it tries for a while, then bombs and never finds the server again on the list of Tivo Servers.

    What a great use of money.
     
  2. May 10, 2004 #62 of 465
    ccwf

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    It's not supposed to, but it can with bad equipment or improper configuration.

    The reason MTU can affect real calls and not test calls is because big chunks of data are downloaded in the real calls.
     
  3. May 27, 2004 #63 of 465
    rosemaryil

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    Warning up Front: I'm a wireless novice!

    I just got a Series 2 TIVO DVR and I was hoping to hook it up through my current wireless network. Not sure that this is possible with my current equipment. I have a D-Link 802.11g Wireless Router (model DI-524) which does not have any USB ports, only LAN "ports". Is it possible to get a USB adapter and so "convert" a LAN port on the router so I can use it with my DVR?

    Since I don't have a phone line close to the DVR, and if the USB adapter idea doesn't work for my wireless router, my next option is a wireless modem jack. Does any know how far away you can have the base unit (unit you plug the phone line into) from the extension unit (unit that plugs into the AC outlet and into which you plug the DVR)? The phone outlet I'd need to use is in another room..

    Thanks in advance for any help and suggestions!
     
  4. May 27, 2004 #64 of 465
    bedelman

    bedelman Call me Bob

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    Crystal...
    First -- if you want to connect your TiVo DVR to a network, you'll need to get the appropriate adapter. The officially supported adapters can be found at www.tivo.com/adapters

    The adapter goes into the USB port on the TiVo -- you would not connect the USB port of your TiVo to anything other than one of these adapters

    Second -- To use some of the newer adapters, you might need a software update. If your TiVo is brand new, the initial guided setup is really only done with a phone line (although TiVo does give you a 50 foot phone cord). Any software update will come down on the phone call that is made after guided setup is complete.
     
  5. Jun 11, 2004 #65 of 465
    frobey

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    Well, I must say, that getting a wireless adapter to work properly on a Tivo has not been a very fun experience...first I bought a Linksys WUSB11 that wasn't a V2.6 or V2.8. I returned it and bought an SMC 2662W that apparently isn't a v.2 since my Tivo doesn't recognize it. I have 4.01b on my Series2 so I don't think that's the problem.

    I'm just curious if there are any plans to allow customers to go out and force a software upgrade and allow them to select the adapter they have (just like you can do with a PC right now?) It's much too difficult to try to find the right version of an adapter that is supposed to work in this Tivo, especially if you try to buy things off the Internet.

    Any ideas would be most appreciated.

    Frank
     
  6. Jun 21, 2004 #66 of 465
    JS N New Orleans

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    Can anyone tell me if there is an adapter for the Hughes dual Direct TV box so that I can do my daily calls via a Cell Phone? I have had it set up for about a year via phone line, but if there is a way to use my cell phone that would be great.

    Thanks!!
     
  7. Jun 23, 2004 #67 of 465
    gmh

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    I'll have to agree with frobey, connecting through wireless is surprisingly frustrating.

    I purchased a 40hr Series 2 last weekend ($50 rebate, whoohoo!). It's been amazingly easy to set up, except for when I tried to connect to my wireless network. I bought a D-Link DWL-122, and have an Apple Airport (regular ol' Airport, not Airport Extreme) conencted to SBC DSL through a Speedstream modem. When I go through the wireless setup, the tivo sees the network, but is never able to connect to it (it gives me something like "couldn't locate network" after trying to set it up). The status screen shows the network name, but says there is no signal (the adapter is about 2 inches from the base station, so I don't think signal strength is the real problem). The IP address area is also blank.

    After searching through the forums here I thought it might be the Hex/Password problem. I found the hex version of the password in the Airport setup utility, but no go. I tried disabling WEP but got the same problem. The odd thing is, I was able to connect to a neighbor's unprotected network and everything worked fine, which makes me suspect it's either the Airport or the DSL. I don't have any special setup on the Airport, just the normal password protection. Is there some trick to getting it to connect to an Airport? Was the DWL-122 just a bad choice? Any other suggestions?

    thanks!

    Graham
     
  8. Jun 23, 2004 #68 of 465
    bedelman

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    Crystal...
    Check to see if you have any entries in the Access List on your ABS. If you do, you'll need to add the MAC address for the adapter connected to the TiVo.

    Note that I use a "regular ol' Airport" base station as well. FWIW -- it has a lot better range than the NetGear wireless router that I have in the same room.
     
  9. Jun 23, 2004 #69 of 465
    gmh

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    Hmm, no, the Access Control list is empty.

    Thanks for the suggestion though.
     
  10. Jun 23, 2004 #70 of 465
    bedelman

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    Crystal...
    When was the last time you re-booted your ABS? If it's been a while, you might want to give it a shot. Also make sure that it's set to dole out enough IP addresses for your network (via DHCP). Another approach you might want to take is to use a static IP address for the TiVo -- which should be outside the DHCP range on the ABS
     
  11. Jun 23, 2004 #71 of 465
    gmh

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    San...
    I rebooted the base station a bunch of times while trying different settings. That's actually the one problem I've had with my Airport. Every couple of weeks it just kind of gets stuck and I have to restart the base station and the DSL modem to get it to work again. Otherwise it's been great.

    I had the base station set to "Share a single IP address (using DHCP and NAT)." Is that wrong? When I try to change it to "Share a range of IP addresses (using only DHCP)" and try to upload it gives me a sheet saying "Sharing a range of DHCP addresses requires the base station to be configured using Ethernet and static IP addresses."
    Does that mean I have to use an ethernet cable to upload the changes?
     
  12. Jun 24, 2004 #72 of 465
    bedelman

    bedelman Call me Bob

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    Crystal...
    I don't know, but I can describe how mine is configured and I do manage it via either a wired or wireless connection.

    My ABS is connected to a LinkSys 4-port cable/dsl router which is what connects to my ISP. That LinkSys router's IP address is 10.0.1.254. The IP address of my ABS is 10.0.1.1

    In "Show all settings"...

    Internet Tab --
         Connect using: Ethernet
         Configure TCP/IP using Ethernet section
           Configure: Manually
           IP address: 10.0.1.1
           Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
           Router address: 10.0.1.254
           DNS servers: (two IP address for the DNS at my ISP)

    Network Tab --
         Distribute IP addresses is checked
         Share a range of IP addresses (using only DHCP)
           Beginning: 10.0.1.2
           Ending: 10.0.1.50
           DHCP lease: 365 days
         Enable DHCP server on Ethernet is unchecked
     
  13. Jun 24, 2004 #73 of 465
    gmh

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    San...
    Ah, "configured using ethernet" must have meant the I had to choose "Connect using: Ethernet" under the internet tab. Once I did that it didn't give me that warning sheet. Unfortunately after I made that change I couldn't connect to the internet.

    Oh well. I'll try again tonight to make sure I did everything right (I hadn't yet had my coffee when I tried it this morning).

    I really appreciate your help though, Bob.
     
  14. Jun 24, 2004 #74 of 465
    bedelman

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    Crystal...
    One big difference we might have from one another is that my ABS doesn't connect to my ISP directly. It only connects to the LinkSys 4-port Cable/DSL router. It is the LinkSys that actually handles the connection to the Internet.
     
  15. Jun 24, 2004 #75 of 465
    gmh

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    San...
    Yeah, my base station is just connected to the cheap modem they gave me when I signed up.
     
  16. Jun 24, 2004 #76 of 465
    bedelman

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    Crystal...
    Do you know if it uses PPPoE (PPP over Ethernet) or just a regular Ethernet connection? Depending on which it is determines how you need to have the setting under the Internet tab configured.

    With PPPoE you'll need to provide your account name and password as well as put in the values for the DNS servers and Domain name (these come from your ISP).

    With just Ethernet, you should have it set to configure itself using DHCP. Again you should put in the DNS servers and Domain name that come from your ISP

    It's very important that you have the Enable DHCP server on Ethernet unchecked in the Network tab. The ABS you have only has a single Ethernet port and you could end up pushing DHCP services back to your ISP -- and they won't be happy with you. They should be blocking this so it doesn't happen, but they may not be doing so.

    (They still talk about me at my ISP and how my little old ABS took down a major client of theirs about two years ago -- part of the reason why I have a LinkSys 4-port Cable/DSL router on my network now)

    BTW -- back to your original post, do you have a space in your wireless network's name? Is it an open or closed network? The wireless network name is case-sensitive (which you need to key in if your network is "closed") and spaces cause trouble with some devices.
     
  17. Jun 24, 2004 #77 of 465
    gmh

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    San...
    I don't really know. All of the setup things I've found on SBC's support site say to use PPPoE.

    I think I may have let it configure automatically when I tried changing the "connect using" option to ethernet this morning. I'll go back through and try it manually.


    Sweet. Show them who's boss.

    I tried turning on "Enable DHCP server on Ethernet" just to see if it changed anything, but it didn't, so I turned it back off.

    It's an open network, and it shows up in the Tivo's network list, but it does have spaces in the name (My network's name is "radio waves go right through you"). I'll try changing it to one word.
     
  18. Jun 24, 2004 #78 of 465
    bedelman

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    Crystal...
    That's an awfully long SSID -- I've heard that some of the USB wireless adapters can't handle a SSID that long. I think odds are pretty good that that's the problem.
     
  19. Jun 24, 2004 #79 of 465
    gmh

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    San...
    Huzzah! Eurkea! Whoo Hoo!

    Yeah, yeah, I just renamed it "inductioncoil" and it works! I knew it was going to be something absurdly simple.

    Remember that kids, don't try to be clever and name your base station like you're writing War and Peace.

    Thanks so much Bob, you rock.
     
  20. Jul 24, 2004 #80 of 465
    matguy

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    Just wanted to let people with early Series 2 Tivos (specifically the infamous 60 hour) know that I plugged in a Dell TrueMobile 1700 USB Wireless B addapter and it picked it right up. The Tivo pages list that as working with the newer (Service tag starting with 2) models, but it seems to work just fine with the early ones too.

    On the bonus side of the addapters, they're good looking and cheap on Ebay.
     

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