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Read this if you want to use your Series2 DVR with a wireless adapter

Discussion in 'TiVo Help Center' started by TiVoStephen, Dec 27, 2003.

  1. rkcarter

    rkcarter Rick- Vorlon wannabe

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    Wow ... because of things mentioned elsewhere in this thread (see the posts 2 or 3 back from yours above), it's not so much "USB compatibility" it's "did the TiVo software developers write a driver for this particular version of this particular network adapter." So buying one which could work in the future is a total crap shoot, since they have not written any driver software for *any* 802.11g network adapters at this point, at least not that they have announced yet. Believe me when they announce one my house immediately goes from 802.11b to 802.11g. - Rick
     
  2. ccwf

    ccwf 国際化 Member

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    Yes, many people who remember the old days of where you bought a network card and had to configure it to avoid hardware conflicts and install a driver for it, think that USB avoids both of those issues. It does not. It only avoids the hassle of dealing with hardware conflicts and does not eliminate the need for a driver. Just because you can physically attach a device via USB does not mean it will magically work with any computer supporting USB.

    People with older WIndows systems with USB will find the same problem: many current network cards do not support older Windows systems because the manufacturers have only written drivers for currently popular Windows systems.
     
  3. cgi-bin

    cgi-bin New Member

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    What I did:

    Bridge 2 WRT54G's using sveasoft firmware in WDS mode.
    Connect Tivo Using NetGear FA120 (USB 2.0).

    Total cost ~$75 and gives me wireless G speeds (yeah I know The USB 1.1 on the Tivo limits me to ~12Mbit... but I'll be read when USB 2.0 is enabled)
     
  4. rkcarter

    rkcarter Rick- Vorlon wannabe

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    good call... I may just do that ... if nothing else by Murphy's Law it will make TiVo announce an 802.11g adapter or two's support a day later.
     
  5. stagedr

    stagedr New Member

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    I am starting to think this is just an exercise in futility. Why does this company bother to come out with these new ideas (Tivo To Go) and options (wireless) when they really don't worl very well and it's near impossible to even find the equipment needed for them?!?! CCWF, thank you for your recommendations but the Tivo store doesn't even carry the adapters that do work with my Tivo. Does that make ANY sense??? If these adapters aren't readily available you would think Tivo would sell them! As far as shopping online -- not of the online stores actually tell you which version of the adapter they are selling. You have to be able to see the box to determine that (again how much sense does that make!!!).
     
  6. ccwf

    ccwf 国際化 Member

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    The adapter currently being sold at the TiVo Store works with all current Series2 models. If that adapter doesn't work with your model of TiVo DVR (which model do you have?), then see the forum sponsors at the top of the page for Series1 networking solutions or complain to DirecTV if you have a DirecTV DVR with TiVo model.
     
  7. wantwireless

    wantwireless New Member

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    I am trying to find a wireless adapter that will work with my Tivo.
    I compared all of the adapters on the list that are supposed to work with Tivo and selected either the DWL 120 or the WUSB11.
    Both of these require a certain version.
    How do you tell what version you are buying when trying to order on line?
    None of the websites seem to state a version.
     
  8. stagedr

    stagedr New Member

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    I have a Series 2 130.xxxxx Only certain adapters will work with it -- al earlier versions than what is available out there.
     
  9. ccwf

    ccwf 国際化 Member

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    OK. Thanks for that detail. I was wrong: some of the recommended adapters indeed do not work with older units.

    I went to the full adapter list and did a search in DealTime for the first adapter on the list, the Belkin F5D6050, which forum members have reported works with your model. DealTime says OfficeMax has it in stock for $34.
     
  10. ccwf

    ccwf 国際化 Member

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    In general, you can try sending an email and asking.
     
  11. Soulstealer

    Soulstealer New Member

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    Hello. I'm new here. I just set up my Tivo Series2 (40 hour) yesterday and I can't connect it to my wireless network.

    I used a phone line, got it all configured first, and then I tried to get it connected to my wireless network. I'm using a D-Link DWL-122 and trying to connect to a D-Link DI-614+ router. The USB device isn't new. I've used it before with my laptop and it worked.

    When I tried to set it up, Tivo changed the firmware on the wireless USB device to work with Tivo, which I assume is normal. When I go into the Wireless Settings, Tivo sees my network, and allows me to click on it to set up the WEP. And yet, when I try to test the network connection, I get, "Failed. Wireless network not found."

    Why is it seeing the network in Settings, but not in Test? What am I doing wrong?
     
  12. VanGoghLikesTivo

    VanGoghLikesTivo New Member

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    Does TiVo show a signal strength for your network on the settings/network area? Does TiVo work on the network if security is disabled?
     
  13. Soulstealer

    Soulstealer New Member

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    Thank you, VanGogh! There was no signal strength showing on the Tivo. I figured the router must be too far away. So I moved it RIGHT NEXT TO the Tivo and plugged it in. Still no signal strength. In fact, the DWL-122 was blinking, trying to find a network. So, I'm thinking the DWL-122 itself is broken. *sigh*
     
  14. simsbotv

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    I went to Staples and the version was not found until the sales rep opened the cellophane wrap with his pocket knife ( kudos to a good sales rep)...and pulled out the CD which stated the version...which was 4.0 on a Linksys...so it was unuseable....outer box didn't show the version...so I haven't bought one yet...good luck, shopping
     
  15. Soulstealer

    Soulstealer New Member

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    Well, I went out today and picked up another D-Link DWL-122 and tried it with my Tivo. I still can't get onto my network. I even tried taking off encryption, and still nothing.

    It sees my network. It just says Signal: (None). Even if the router is right next to the Tivo. I really just don't know what to do now.
     
  16. AndyWooZ32

    AndyWooZ32 New Member

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    Ditto. I returned my DWL-G120 back to Best Buy... looked around Best Buy (and asked them) to find a unit that was on the 'compatible' list. Unfortunately, none in stock and many were discontinued.

    Went over to Staples.... saw three WUSB11's on the shelf. Looked at all three. No indicators about software version. Took the one with the lowest MAC address, took it home. Disabled wireless on my computer. Hooked it up to my computer and installed drivers onto computer, configured the WUSB11 with the SSID and WEP key. Worked fine on my PC. Disconnected it. Connected it to the TIVO (540 series, 5.3 software) ... and BINGO. It worked. Just needed to follow the instructions in the book on how to set things up (really it was able ensuring that it was using DHCP, re-entered the WEP key, and it detected my wireless network, so I selected that.

    EUREKA. Both my static noise, and trying to get wireless working on TIVO... is finally resolved.

    I would recommend people check out there BestBuy, Frys, CompUSA, Staples, OfficeMax to just get the 'B' adaptor that works (based on the recommended list) and give up on the 'G'. One day, in the future, G will work, and we will grumble and be unhappy that we paid for the 'B' for a short time.

    For me, it was worth it, because my closest phone jack is two rooms away, and I haven't heard/seen anyone get ANY G adaptor to work.

    Wasn't worth the headache to keep trying for me.

    Good luck all !!!

    Thanks,

    Andy

    P.S. There are still two more WUSB11's at the Staples where I picked mine up in Campbell, CA if you happen to be in the area :)

    Funny... BestBuy guys said "ugh... Tivo", when I returned my DWL-G120 and asked them to find one of the 'compatible wireless adapters ' from my list. They tried their best. But seems like a lot of people are coming in, trying and returning wireless adaptors at Best Buy.
     
  17. Soulstealer

    Soulstealer New Member

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    Update: I called Tivo about the problem I'm having getting this DWL-122 to connect to my network. After a half an hour, their suggestion was to try another brand of adapter.

    I am not a happy customer.
     
  18. TrinSF

    TrinSF New Member

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    Oh, that would explain why a friend was told by Tivo support to go buy a different brand of adapter, because the one he had (and even bought a brand new one of, just in case the first one was faulty) wasn't working with the Tivo, even though it's the recommended adapter.

    At this point, I'm confused about what "recommended adapter" means, in this context. Tivo sells it, Tivo claims it works, but if when one has problems, Tivo says, (and I'm quoting here) "some people have problems with that adapter. Maybe you should try a different one."

    This, by the way, is about the D-Link DWL-122.
     
  19. ccwf

    ccwf 国際化 Member

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    I was wrong. The adapter TiVo is currently selling doesn't work with the older units.
    It means that those adapters have been tested by TiVo and don't have the WUSB11 problem where you need a particular model but don't know which one you'll get.
     
  20. johda06

    johda06 New Member

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    Thanks to all in this message thread and others.

    I have Two series 2 boxes both wirelessly connected using D-Link DWl-122 USB adapters to a Linksys Wrt54G router. Everything works great including Photo's and music. Transferring shows between boxes works fine also but is VERY SLOW a 1 hour show can take about 4 hours to transfer. When I read about the TiviToGo availability, I decided to upgrade the connections for better speed.

    On box 1 i use the Linksys USB200M connecter ($30 Best Buy) and a Linksys WGA54G game adapter($99 Best Buy). Configured DHCP to the wirless network. Installed and working in about 2 minutes. Rather than pay another $100 for a second game adapter, I simply used anouther USB200M on my second box, and a 25' ethernet CAT5e cable to connect the second Tivo box to my wirless router (WRT54G).
    I now get real time transfer of shows without interruption (wait a couple of minutes when transfer intiated to FF through those pesky commercials). It's a little bit expensive but it WORKS!!
     

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