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Read this if you want to use your Series2 DVR with a wireless adapter

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by TiVoStephen, Dec 27, 2003.

  1. Carioca_FL

    Carioca_FL New Member

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    Are the new (or refurb) Tivo units being sold now (especially under the refurb pricing) include already the newest firmware update?

    I have a DWL-122, and I wanted to be sure that it works on my 40-hr unit, to be delivered by Wednesday...
     
  2. ashu

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    Carioca - I responded to your thread with a potential solution to avoid buying the wireless device - and using just the 810 (or better - a 900AP+) combined with a hub and a wired USB/ethernet adapter.
     
  3. Carioca_FL

    Carioca_FL New Member

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    Thanks mate! And I replied to your post as well. Basically, it looks like the DWL-122 (at $20) still looks like the best route, as the cost of the ethernet to USB adapter PLUS a hub would be higher than $20.

    Unless there's an issue w/ having two 802.11b devices close-by (the 122 for the Tivo and the 810 for the Xbox), I will go w/ the 122 for the Tivo.
     
  4. twelliott

    twelliott New Member

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    Just set-up a refurb Series 2 to replace my 4 year old TiVo and bought the D-Link DWL-122 (on sale at Best Buy last week). Everything set up fine, but I am only getting 40% signal strength. The adapter is at the end of an extension cable that is placed away from the rest of my components. The daily calls are going fine and I can stream MP3’s from my computer, but I am wondering if I would get better signal strength with either the Linksys or Netgear adaptors? No, I can’t move the wireless router closer and my laptop signal right next to the TiVo is significantly better. Any experience with the other adapters would be appreciated.

    Thanks!
     
  5. twelliott

    twelliott New Member

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    Yes, it works after you get the software update. Run guided setup and when complete force another connection, then unplug and restart. Plug in the DWL-122 and it will get the flash update and work. Very slick...
     
  6. M'sInducedUlcer

    M'sInducedUlcer New Member

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    EDIT: It looks like you can run a B client adapter, but your router has to be in B only mode or B & G mode. I would post a link to the FAQ but I can't until I have three or more posts.

    I am using a SMC G router in mixed B+G mode. If I buy the Tivo recommended Linksys 802.11b adapter, should I be able to connect ok? Or will I have to run my router in B mode only?

    Thanks!

    PS: I did do some searching on this, but could not find a clear answer very quick.
     
  7. ashu

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    As far as I understand this issue, running a router in mixed mode merely *allows* B OR G clients to connect to it. However, if even a single device on the network is capable ONLY of B mode, the router does drop ALL operations to B mode, possibly also dropping ALL other devices to b compatibility - whether they're B or G. I'd love to be wrong :) I've been holding off on upgrading the rest of my network!
     
  8. ccwf

    ccwf 国際化 Member

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    This is incorrect (well, it might have been correct with some of the earlist, buggy firmware revisions—update to current firmware if you think you are affected). Some routers' mixed mode speeds are not much better than B speeds, but that's certainly not true of all routers. Mixed mode performance varies widely, so people looking to buy routers should look up some mixed mode benchmarks for the routers in which they're interested.
     
  9. 74opus

    74opus New Member

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    M'sInducedUlcer :

    Well, FWIW, I'm using my SMC router in B & G mode and my little SMC 2662W....works like a charm on the TIVO.

    SMC equipment has always done well for me.(knocking on wood....)
     
  10. M'sInducedUlcer

    M'sInducedUlcer New Member

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    I purchased the DLink 122 from Fry's today for $19.99 after rebate. I plugged it in, and after the firmware automagically updated, it works great. I am connecting it to an SMC Barricade G router running in mixed mode. Tomorrow I will buy another one of these DLinks for my $49.99 refurb Tivo that is on the way.

    Two questions:

    1) How do you view the wireless signal strength on the Tivo?

    2) How is the multiroom viewing over wireless? Is it "laggy" or usually smooth given a decent signal strength?

    Thanks!
     
  11. matguy

    matguy New Member

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    If you're running just a single Series 2 Tivo and all operations are working fine, theres no reason to wory about any speed you may be missing out on, because the only real thing that is speed dependant is transfering shows from one Tivo to another. Plus, the percentage is a little missleading. You're not missing over half of the potential data speed, just half of the signal strengh, which should still be capable of plenty of data transfer, possibly the full 11mb depending on how much noise you're encountering, but it doesn't measure and tell you that. Think of it like a cell phone, sometimes you can talk and listen just fine with a single bar of signal, sometimes you get choppy and noisy transmission with 4 bars.

    Basically, if you're real worried about checking in to it, temporarily physically move your Tivo closer to your access point/router and see if it makes a performance difference to see if the effort would be worth it. But I really doubt you'd notice any performance difference unless you were falling down in to the poor signal areas, and even then you may not notice any differences being you're not transfering shows to another Tivo (unless you are.)
     
  12. twelliott

    twelliott New Member

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    Thanks, matguy! No, I am not planning on streaming video and I have had no problems connecting via network for guide updates or for streaming mp3's from my server. I was just wondering if other adapters might have a better antenna than the D-Link DWL-122.
     
  13. twelliott

    twelliott New Member

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    For #1, from TiVo Central choose "TiVo Messages & Setup", then "Settings", then "Phone & Network setup. From this screen you can see a lot of useful information including your wireless signal strength.

    I can't comment on #2 as I don't have two Series 2's to stream to. I would guess that the quality would be marginal until TiVo supports 802.11g adapters.
     
  14. ashu

    ashu User title defunct

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    Over wireless - things seem to progress faster than medium Quality for real-time viewing when sending from a wired TiVo to a wireless one, and just about at realtime for medium quality when moving from the wireless one to the wired one. Essentially, I can watch Live recordings/transfers with almost no angst.

    My signal strength screen indicates 60% or more - and this is termed 'Excellent' by the TiVo.

    I don't have two wireless devices to test two TiVo's with.
     
  15. ks-man

    ks-man New Member

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    I'm sure this has been addressed but I don't have time to go through the whole thread so either an answer or a direction to link/page number would be great.

    Can I use my Tivo with my wireless linksys 54g router (wrt54g)? I know they originally only said it would work with 11b but I didn't know if it has been updated or if people got 54g to work. If I can what do I need to buy and a quick description on how to get it to work would be great. Thanks.
     
  16. ashu

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    No G support for Tivo yet. Your G router will operate in B mode (perhaps only partially, if yo're lucky - for this device - and G for rest)
     
  17. upilogue

    upilogue New Member

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    You can get a 802.11G bridge (or a router in bridge mode), then a USB Ethernet to connect the Tivo. It's more expensive solution, but it will keep your WLAN in G mode.

    Otherwise, you can use any of the supported 802.11B USB adapters (e.g, Belkin F5D6050), configure Tivo for wireless as usual and make sure your router is configured to operate in both B and G modes.
     
  18. oodie

    oodie New Member

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    There seems to be some conflicting information regarding Series 2 with TSN's starting with 140 and the Linksys WUSB11 ver. 3.0. The first post in this thread alludes to the fact that this should work, while www.tivo.com/adapters seems to say that it won't. Anyone have any advice? Maybe the disrepancy was corrected via a software update.

    Thanks
     
  19. vodtech

    vodtech New Member

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    I have the same question as oodie. I have a Series 2, 140 service number, with the latest firmware. Getting the older Linksys adapters is now an eBay-or-die proposition. Meanwhile, Staples has the WUSB11, presumably a 3.0, going on sale tomorrow for $39.94, minus an additional $10 mail-in rebate. Can I buy it? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
     
  20. nbussch

    nbussch New Member

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    Does anyone with wireless adapters installed on their TiVos have experience installing Windows Service Pack 2 on their computer? Some people have reported networking problems after installing the service pack since it installs a firewall...
    (same question also posted in separate thread)
     

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