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Queen -w- Adam Lambert Kiev

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Johnny Dancing, Jul 1, 2012.

  1. Maui

    Maui Major Lee Oblivious

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    I almost mentioned REO and Richrath but not sure if most were familiar enough with REO to know who I was talking about.
     
  2. LoadStar

    LoadStar LOAD"*",8,1

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    *shrug* And for me, I actually think Journey is an excellent example of how to do it. They were able to find Arnel Pineda, who is remarkably successful at reproducing Steve Perry's vocals, enough so that I can sit and listen to them and say "yup, that's Journey." I don't think I could say the same about Queen with Adam Lambert.

    (Of course, I wouldn't say the same about Queen + Paul Rodgers either, although I don't think that was ever their intent with that pairing.)

    Now, if Queen were to recruit Marc Martel to sing with them instead of with QE, that would be remarkable to hear IMO.
     
  3. Cearbhaill

    Cearbhaill Garden obsessed

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    It's...
    We've had this discussion before- I think impersonators are disrespectful.
    Ok, maybe not disrespectful exactly, but cheesy and low rent.
    Impersonating implies that you think you can come close and IMO no one can and everyone knows it.
    A new singer should bring something new while being faithful to the spirit of the old.

    Obviously they could have had Martel if they wanted him.
    I find him... cheesy and low rent.
     
  4. LoadStar

    LoadStar LOAD"*",8,1

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    Yeah, it's a debate that will not be settled. I think that when you have a band that is clearly a "legacy" band, one that is not releasing any new stuff and simply performing the hits they're known for, there's something to be said about being as faithful to that sound as possible, and that includes featuring lead performers that can pull that sound off, not just the spirit of the sound. I can go either way on this debate though... I can definitely see the opposite side as well.

    As I mentioned earlier, if someone like, say, Marc Martel or Arnel Pineda happens to sound too much like the original - not because they set out to be an impersonator, but simply because they naturally sound that way, is it a bad thing? Does that make them less, make them "cheesy and low rent"? Rhetorical questions all, of course.

    Now, I'll grant that Martel has admitted being rather influenced by Mercury's vocals. I don't know if I'd go so far as to call him an impersonator though. If you listen to his vocals with his [former?] group, Downhere, he still sounds a lot like Freddy Mercury, so it's not like he's setting out to be a Mercury impersonator, just because he is in a Queen tribute band.
     
  5. Maui

    Maui Major Lee Oblivious

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    Arnel is a fairly recent addition to the band. They had other singers in the interim.

    For me, Journey was my favorite band in high school. I saw them many times going back to the Departure tour. Steve Perry was the face of the band for me. While Arnel can mimic Steve Perry very, very well it is just not the same to me.

    I feel the same way about many of the bands from my late 70's early 80's past who have replaced key members.
     
  6. fmowry

    fmowry Well-Known Member

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    I'd bet Arnel has a better voice than Perry at this point. They (with Arnel) were great in concert and he moved around the stage and got everyone in the stands involved.

    The bottom line is old lead singers voices get old and they can no longer perform the songs they did back in the day.

    I wasn't a huge Queen fan but didn't see the problem with the Lambert clips. But heck, I'm a Paul Rodgers fan and thought he did admirably working with Queen too.

    I am also a huge Foreigner fan and have no problem with Kelly Hansen doing vocals (though I also liked Hurricane).

    I saw quite a few new lead singers for metal bands at the M3 festival this year and some were certainly not close to the singers they were replacing so sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't even if the replacement has a better voice than the original (see Gary Cerone and VH).
     
  7. markz

    markz Active Member

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    Steve Augeri, the singer that Journey had from 1998-2006 was amazing too. Not Steve Perry, but a very good replacement. I saw them probably 20 times with Steve Augeri, and have seen Steve Augeri a few times after he left Journey.

    I saw them once with Jeff Scott Soto and it wasn't as good.

    I saw them once with Arnel Pineda and was very impressed.

    If we can't have Steve Perry, I prefer Steve Augeri over Soto and Pineda.
     
  8. Alfer

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    I was reading I think it was Wikipedia about Steve Perry and word is he still has his chops and is working on new material. Some who have heard is claim he still sounds like he did back in the day.

    I'd love for him to mend ways with the band and get out there for one tour before it's too late for any of them to keep on rockin.
     
  9. jlin

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    I've been looking all over the internet for a true HDTV version of the concert. Does anyone know if the concert was broadcast in HDTV in ANY country at all?

    The best I could find is a 5.69GB SD version of the show without any TV logo. It's still formatted 4x3 letterboxed.

    This is the first Queen concert I've watched.. thought Adam Lambert did a fantastic job!
     
  10. Cearbhaill

    Cearbhaill Garden obsessed

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    It's...
    Here's what's making the rounds as the best one-

    Here's the cover art-

    [​IMG]

    Also, here is a 6.6 GB DVB MPEG torrent from CMI & volklive at Queenzone-

    http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1316012/2012-06-30-kiev-dvb-mpeg.aspx

    More options here-

    http://www.adamwiki.org/wiki/2012-06-30_Kiev,_Ukraine_(Queen_+_Adam_Lambert)
     
  11. Alfer

    Alfer New Member

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    Is this stealing? :)
     
  12. Cearbhaill

    Cearbhaill Garden obsessed

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    It's...
    Not unless somebody is selling official ones.
    And no one is.
     
  13. JohnB1000

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    Wow that was pretty bad.

    What do you expect the band to say. "Hey we're touring with Adam Lambert, we really don't think he's doing that great a job but come out and buy tickets"

    I liked It's a Kind of Magic, Roger did a great job on the songs he sung. I liked that guy they showed on the video screen.

    Good one.
     
  14. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey

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    Sorry, Queen without Freddie Mercury just isn't Queen. They should just end the band and let the rest of the band go off and do their own thing. Some bands can get away with replacing key members others can't.
     
  15. JFriday

    JFriday "Just The Facts"

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    That's how I feel, freddie was one of a kind, you can't replace him.
     
  16. Cearbhaill

    Cearbhaill Garden obsessed

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    No one is attempting to replace Freddie- that is the furthest thing from anyone's mind.
    And you are saying that Roger and Brian should just go away and never ever enjoy playing together and performing the songs that they wrote ever again?
    That's absurd.

    Who are you to tell them how to conduct their lives?
    They are closer to the situation than anyone and it is 100% their right to continue to perform if that is what they want to do.
    I don't get the attitude that they have to stop their lives in order to honor the memory of Freddie here 20+ years after the fact. What better honor than playing their music and bringing it to a whole new generation of younger people?
     
  17. JFriday

    JFriday "Just The Facts"

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    When did I tell them they couldn't perform? They can perform all they want, I just won't go see them. Especially with that wanna be Lambert.
     
  18. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey

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    I've never TOLD them how to conduct their lives. I was just giving my opinion and I wouldn't pay to see them without Freddie. My opinion, Queen died when Freddie did. There's no reason they couldn't perform together, but with a different band name.

    Led Zep was in a similar situation when John Bonham died. Robert Plant said that Zep was over at that point because it wouldn't be Zep without Bonham. That's how I think of Queen.
     
  19. Cearbhaill

    Cearbhaill Garden obsessed

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    My point is only that obviously that is not how they think of themselves and theirs is the only opinion that counts.
     

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