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Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by armooo, Nov 25, 2006.
I may try 187 again and see if i can recover some use for now
You can define separate shares for subfolders of other shared folders. Tedious but does allow you to show contents of your subfolders without having to move files. Shortcuts to either folders or individual videos do not work however.
Do you mean have all the files in subfolders of a share show up as a combined flat listing for that share on the NPL? That might be worthwhile.
Let me first apologize to everyone out there who is having issues. I am also having the same problems and I truly do apologize for failing to fix it yet.
To quickly address the issue. This is a bug in TiVo. This is some coder making a mistake in fixing something. I don't believe that TiVo intended to stop our subfolder functionality. If they had intended to do that they could have done it in a much more blatant manner.
To that end. I think subfolders are extremely helpful, I am sure some of you have tens if not hundreds of videos to sort.
Rest assured this can and will be fixed. On friday I can put in a solid day of effort into this and I think I should be able to come up with a solution.
The patch in 192 that some people have been using still has a lot of bugs and this is why it has not been released in a current form.
Again I apologize for the issues and hopefully we can solve them for you soon.
If you want glitch free, just put all your videos in one folder, or create multiple shares, each with just one folder, and you'll have glitch free operation.
Yes, that is how TivoDesktop + does it. You can have folders and shortcuts to folders and folders inside of folders inside your "My Tivo Recordings" folder which is what TivoDesktop+ shares out.
But then when you sit down in front of your Tivo, use your remote control to navigate to whats being shared out by TivoDesktop+, all the video files anywhere in that entire tree will just be listed there at the root level and there are no folders listed on the Tivo at all.
Yes, thats certainly far from ideal, particularly if you have a lot of video files, but that's how Tivo Desktop + does it and therefore ought to be completely emulable.
Apparently KR thinks he can make folders work though, so more power to him. Obviously a functioning folder implimentation would be the best if it can be pulled off.
A couple of questions unrelated to the folder problems with 8.3:
1. Is is possible to adjust the descriptors of files you transfer to the Tivo to have more info, or even the same "series" name so they will get put into "folders" on the Now Playing list once they've been transfered?
2. Is it possible for shows sent to the Tivo to be "Kidzoneable?" Currently, you can't put anything you've transfered from your computer into the Kid Zone.
1. Yes it is "possible" but, no pyTivo doesn't support this yet. This is something I really want to add, but have not been able to do yet.
2. Umm, I don't know the answer to this. Maybe??? I have not used this feature at all.
Kid zone can be useful even if you don't have kids, but have visiting non-Tivo people with unsupervised access to your Tivo. When it is in Kid Zone, they can't stop recordings, or delete your shows.
Can someone who is both a kidzone and ttg user answer something for me? If you transfer back normal "*.tivo" recordings via Tivodesktop, can you then add them to kidzone? What I'm wondering is if pyTiVo sent the rating field(and/or some other 'magic' field(s)), would the tivo react differently with respect to kidzone?
Yes, normal .tivo files work. I think it needs the meta-data contained in the .tivo file.
I have Thousands. Subfolders are the ONLY reason I use pytivo. I don't need its transcoding (or whatever the term is) functionality. It's neat, in theory, and maybe one day I won't have the space to maintain two trees of original format and tivo format, but for now I use VisualHub to 'tivo-ize' my files in advance, and am very happy with that.
If pytivo drops multiple folder support, I drop pytivo. Don't get me wrong, I am very grateful to those who maintain it, and they have every right to decide what they do and don't support. And I understand that this is Tivo's screwup and am more than willing to take occasional 'outages' such as this in stride as part and parcel of using non-official programs. I just wanted to put an opposing view out there about this. -- As long as there is no official way to have multiple folders served from a Macintosh, I'll be looking elsewhere for that functionality, and that is why I use pytivo which has done this job beautifully for me in the past, and hopefully will again soon.
Maybe bad form to reply to my own post but for the record I've got pyTivo going on Solaris now, works as flawlessly as on Linux. Problem was I was using a very old ffmpeg and the output off ffmpeg -i is a bit different than the current ffmpeg. I'll probably add a Solaris section to the wiki in the days to come.
Yeah this is a major problem with using ffmpeg in my opinion.
It annoys me that they change so much of the output and even the command inputs so often. It is an amazing piece of software but I just wish they would make the interface more consistent.
Would that stop the files from listing?
I installed 182 when it came out using the windows installer and ran it up till 8.3 bit me in the A$$ then i manualy updated it to 187 and i now have that error. But i moved over the ffmpeg that was in the folder but off hand im not sure if that is what it is using.
Well frequently changing the command inputs is hard to excuse. But as far as the ouput of -i changing around.. the authors of ffmpeg may have only figured it was for human eyes and not have considered that someone may want to automate parsing of that information and make use of it as you guys have. It might be worth the time to contact the ffmpeg folks, tell them what you guys have done and ask them to please leave the ffmpeg -i output alone.
It did for me.
If I'm understanding correctly you moved the ffmpeg from the 182 folder to the 187 folder, if thats what you did I'd say that ought to almost certainly work, I doubt your accidentally using some old version of ffmpeg because I don't think it searches your path for an ffmpeg, I think it just uses the ffmpeg that's specified in pyTivo.conf so unless you accidentally specified some old version of ffmpeg in there I think you've got some other issue.
Just got pyTivo operational last night on a garage-sale eMachines PC so I can easily watch podcast videos downloaded via iTunes.
pyTivo is AWESOME! It's one of the few HME things I've tried that actually works for me! I was disappointed about the sub-folders thing, but I rather like having the individual shares showing up in Now Playing.
Just one wish -- after I'm done watching a podcast video, I delete the streamed video file transferred to Now Playing and would also like to be able to delete the video file on the PC from the Tivo interface. Otherwise, I have to remember to go back to the PC and manually delete the files I've watched -- which is sure to be a problem with my faulty biological RAM.
Anyone else have this or a similar need to remove video files that aren't intended to be kept?
I'm curious what version of ffmpeg you are using?
I assume you know the ffmpeg.exe or ffmpeg_mp2.exe you are using is the one specified by the ffmpeg= line in your pyTivo.conf file (?).
To find out what version of ffmpeg (sometimes renamed to ffmpeg_mp2) you are using just start a command window, log it to the folder containing the program and enter the command: " ffmpeg -i dud " (or "ffmpeg_mp2 -i dud" ).
The version # is the first thing that will display.
The version currently distributed with pyTivo is 8047. Here is the site where you can download many Windows versions of ffmpeg (including 8047). These files are in 7z (7-zip) compressed format. You can get the free 7-zip program here. It's very well behaved and integrates with Windows explorer so you can right-click a file to get to it. A side benefit is this program also expands .rar files, frequently used to distribute free programs.
Note there is a .dll file "pthreadGC2.dll" that needs to be in the same folder (or on the path) with ffmpeg ver. 8047 (and for many other versions). This is distributed with pyTivo also, and I don't think it changes very often. If you run ffmpeg and it needs the .dll file and can't find it, it will give you a message to that effect. This .dll is actually downloadable from the parent directory of the ffmpeg download page if you need it.
I just use the iTunes setting to only keep one podcast per show on my computer at any one time. It automatically deletes an old one when a new one becomes available.
Since most of the files tend to have an episode number or a date in the file name (and there's only one file there to begin with!), going into those files in Now Playing makes it pretty easy to figure out when something is new.
Verison i have is 8047