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Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by armooo, Nov 25, 2006.
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I told him to have fun with it, I like number two myself..
The only cache that pyTivo uses is for the results of running ffmpeg to get video info, this cache is stored in ram so restarting pyTivo will clear it. But it uses os calls to list the files in each directory on each load. A few other people have seen this and it looks like the tivo is sending the wrong path in its request. I think this may be a tivo bug like the now playing list replacement. There must be reasons why the real tivo software has no support for folders.
Is there any diagnostic information I can send you to help fix this problem? Or am I forced to simply dump my subfolders for now?
Another stupid question: can anyone tell me the correct procedure for getting 16x9 material to fill a 16x9 TV? I have aspect169=true and width=720 and my TiVo is set at 16x9, but 16x9 material is boxed. Any suggestions?
I've been using all the various versions of tivo.net and pytivo the last few months I know I ran into this at least once some where along the way, I think probably 2 or 3 times but I don't recall it ever being any long term problem. I doubt I even had to reboot my Tivo or restart the pyTivo or tivo.net software as I'd probably remember having to do that and I don't. My standard way of dealing with the folder display glitches is go into the deleted items folder and then come back out. Maybe you haven't tried that and the solution is that simple?
All that being said, I have to agree with armoo, its not just by sheer chance that the Tivodesktop Plus software doesn't support folders. There definately seem to be issues with folders in the Tivo software itself and I suspect Tivo worked around the problem instead of fixing the problem. I'm hoping the 8.3 version of the Tivo software, which some people have already received btw, makes folders function properly.
No dice. I've tried all the simple folder refresh methods, as well as upgrading pytivo, downgrading pytivo, restarting tivo, and restructuring the pc folders. The problem persists.
What software version is your Tivo running? It could be that 8.3 is even more broken.
As for seeing if it is a Tivo problem watch the output and it should have something like Container=Video/FolderName in the URL make sure that path matches what you are trying to display on your tivo. If it dose not match the tivo seems to be making the wrong requests.
Ha, very cool! I like number three.
Found another reference to this ...
I'd try changing the unique identirifier of pyTivo, that way the Tivo will think its talking to an all together different server. I think you could either edit beacon.py and change guid = '123456' to something else like guid = '123457' or if I'm reading it right there's an undocumented feature (at least I can't come up with it being documented in the past 5 minutes of looking) where you could accomplish the same thing by sticking GUID=123457 into the [Server] section of pyTivo.conf.
I think I figured out the problem I was having with a network drive, via a NAS hard drive. It is using share security, where you specify username(s) and password(s) to have access to each share you create. The pyTivo service however, does not have the right username and password. I created a share with just the video files and turned on the "guest" account on the hard drive, which doesn't require a password, and it now works. (Although it is pretty slow)
That is a distinct possibility.
I wonder if running multiple shares or multiple instances of pytivo might help?
Maybe where you would want a folder, make it a separate share? i havent tried it, just thinking.
There was a bug repaired in the new 8.3 that was related to directory listings like in now playing. This fix was so if you were several pages into a list and chose an item when you returned you would return to the same page you left.
Previous behavior was it would return to the first page and you would have to go back to where you wanted.
I believe this much needed fix is the culprit.
From the boards today and over a few days in a thread about tivo net and a thread I started about galleon titled Did 8.3 update kill galleon goback for good? it has become clear that pytivo, galleon and tivo net are all experiencing the same directory listing communication errors because of the 8.3 update.
It is not configuration, it is not firewall related, it is not some fluke, so dont change anything in your configs or your settings they will only make things worse until the behavior is fixed in the various programs as they adapt to the change in communication structure in the tivo update.
Yes, I'm running 8.3. It seems to have broken subfolders for pytivo and tivo_net.
Is there any podcast client that doesn't do subfolders and cleans up after itself? Does Doppler do subfolders? If there isn't, I guess I'll have to set the paths to each vodcast instead of the main "Podcast" folder with each title in a subfolder?
I don't have 8.3 yet, but want to be proactive to avoid this problem.
Edit: If anyone is interested in the answer to this, it appears the "Happy Fish" podcast client will allow you download all feeds to a single folder without subfolders.
See my post here for what's happening and how programs can work around this.
Me too. Don't have 8.3 yet. If you don't use sub-folders under a shared folder do you still get the "8.3 problem" ?
If you do not use subfolders, you should have no problems under 8.3.
If you do use subfolders, you can indeed use separate shares to point to subfolders, although its a klutzy workaround.
So if before, you had a share with the following contents:
with 8.3 you will be able to transfer/play Video 1 and Video 2 just fine. When you navigate to Subfolder A it will appear normal, but when you next navigate to Subfolder B (or any other subfolder in this or any other share) it will show only the contents of Subfolder A.
So, to do the workaround, you'd need to create 2 additional shares, 1 pointing to Subfolder A and 1 pointing to Subfolder B. You can now get to the files in those subfolders through your new shares. (Of course, if any of your subfolders have further subfolders, then you'll need additional shares for them too, etc. etc. etc.)
I don't have 8.3 yet, but periodically(usually when I'm in a sub folder) the list gets messed up and it shows the contents of my video folder when you go to Now Playing, and you can't get "out" to the normal Now Playing. I've found that if I enter Kid's Zone (which is still at the top of this list that otherwise looks like my video folder) and come back out, the Now Playing list gets fixed up. This might be a way to get 8.3 to reset it's folder request as well.