Just 767 words, according to a cut and paste JS word count page. While I don't personally agree with the color choice, lrhorer has been polite and as he pointed out, has tried suggestions and provided examples as requested. wmcbrine has already done some work to make it easier for lrhorer (and others) to accomplish what they want and has indicated that theming is something he still has intentions to complete: It's extremely rare that any program has exactly the features and design that is perfect for everyone. I think wmcbrine does a good job of evaluating requests and accommodating them if they make sense to the overall pyTivo picture. I don't think it's appropriate to ask lrhorer to 'take it off-line'. If his posts are that unhelpful to you, use the ignore feature; but personally I'm following this particular discussion in this thread closely and am interested in his continued commenting. While I pretty much agree with wmcbrine that TiVoWebPlus has a cramped and visually unappealing page layout, I think the goal of giving pyTivo the ability to look good (and operate well) at various resolutions and in various contexts (cell phone, small and large browser windows, tv, etc.) is a highly desirable one.