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pyTivo - Transcoding server

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by armooo, Nov 25, 2006.

  1. Nov 3, 2009 #2521 of 5687
    wmcbrine

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    The wiki also says that if you set it to MP2, you must also set the bit rate, which you didn't do.

    And of course, the bit rate is what determines the file size, not the codec per se. The question is, does MP2 really sound better at a low bit rate than AC3? Or is there some other reason (lower encoding overhead? simple inertia?) why an AC3-capable device like the S2 uses MP2 for its own recordings?

    The size savings is kind of moot anyway, since video is by far the bulkier part of the stream.
     
  2. Nov 3, 2009 #2522 of 5687
    wmcbrine

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    With recent versions, you can put a share name as the togo_path, instead of an actual path. That way you wouldn't have to change it twice.
     
  3. Nov 4, 2009 #2523 of 5687
    resanders

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    Does pyTivo allow you to transfer shows from your TiVo box to a PC? Sorry, I'm about to become a new user on Windows 7. Thanks!
     
  4. Nov 4, 2009 #2524 of 5687
    jbernardis

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    Yes it most certainly does - but for going in this direction, you might also consider kmttg which you can find via this forum.

    I find pytivo more useful (and more powerful) for going in the other direction - PC to Tivo.
     
  5. Nov 4, 2009 #2525 of 5687
    csell

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    Does pyTivo (or kmttg) allow you to transfer FROM tivo to your PC through the Tivo interface on your Tivo, kinda like Galleon ToGo does? Or do you have it do it from you PC?
     
  6. Nov 4, 2009 #2526 of 5687
    jbernardis

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    with pytivo you can "pull" videos from the tivo by just finding them in your NPL and queueing them up for transfer. You can also "push" them from the PC TO your Tivo. Works both ways - although there are subtle differences in terms of handling metadata/grouping/etc.

    kmttg is one way only - although it can also work with pytivo to send things back to your tivo - I've never done this though.
     
  7. Nov 4, 2009 #2527 of 5687
    csell

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    But where do you do this from? The PC or the Tivo? For example, with Galleon, from the Tivo you can select shows you want to transfer to he PC. So can can do this whole process without getting on your PC. Can this be done using pytivo???
     
  8. Nov 4, 2009 #2528 of 5687
    jbernardis

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    You pull from the tivo - using your remote control.

    You push from the PC.

    Your choice - you can do it either way.
     
  9. Nov 4, 2009 #2529 of 5687
    csell

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    Sorry for having such a difficult time grasping this, but can you PUSH a video from the Tivo to the PC from within Tivo (as in with the remote)? Galleon does this and I'm trying to figure out if pytivo does. You might have answered that question in your last reply, but I didn't get it :) So essentially when I'm on my TV / Tivo and I would like to transfer a tivo recorded video to my PC, can I do it directly from the Tivo.... I use pytivo right now for sending videos from my PC to the Tivo but I haven't figured out if you can do it the other way using Tivo... Sorry for being an idiot!
     
  10. Nov 4, 2009 #2530 of 5687
    txporter

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    No. pytivo is a piece of software that basically replaces Tivo Desktop software. You cannot force a video to your PC from the Tivo box with it.
     
  11. Nov 4, 2009 #2531 of 5687
    csell

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    Is Galleon the only one that can do that?

    Here's what I'm trying to come up with. I'm looking to buy a device that hooks up to your TV and plays video off of your PC wirelessly through your network. An example is - Hauppauge-Media MVP Wireless Digital Media Receiver. The idea is I want to be able to watch my Tivo shows on my bedroom TV without purchasing a new Tivo and paying the $10 additional monthly subscription fee..... From my Tivo, I would like to be able to pick the shows to transfer to my PC (using Galleon or something similar). Upon receiving the shows on the PC, a script will automatically convert it to an mpeg2. This folder will be shared with the remote viewer device... So when it is all said and done all I have to do is pick a show from my Tivo and select Send to PC and then in a few minutes or so I can watch it in my bedroom... May sound silly, but to me it meets a need or desire.
     
  12. Nov 4, 2009 #2532 of 5687
    txporter

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    Possibly. I haven't played with Galleon myself. I am not aware of any other programs that do it, but then again that isn't something I have looked for either.

    Some ideas:

    - I believe that kmttg can be set up to do auto-transfers. Now this obviously only works if you know ahead of time that you will want to watch a specific show later.
    - I know at least for TivoHD/Series3/XL, the video is output on both component and HDMI at the same time so you could route one of the signal to your other TV and use an IR extender to control your tivo
    - you could have a HTPC (or any computer really) hooked up to your bedroom TV where you could initiate the pull of whatever video you want to watch

    Guess that is all I could come up with at the moment. I use a component amp/distributor for my setup. But I also own multiple Tivos.
     
  13. Nov 4, 2009 #2533 of 5687
    csell

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    Thanks for the ideas, some interesting ones in there...

    Using Galleon, Media MVP Wireless, and a video converter program together will definitely work as I described. Just seeing what other options exist, especially since I don't like relying on Galleon anymore since its no longer being developed/supported.
     
  14. Nov 4, 2009 #2534 of 5687
    windracer

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    I believe it is, because it has an actual app written to do so.
    It kinda is ... just not as much as it used to be. ;) I try to "support" it as much as I can, and I know others here (like s2kdave and jtkohl) do as well.
     
  15. Nov 5, 2009 #2535 of 5687
    jtkohl

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    Yeah, my problem is lack of time to spend working on Galleon. Anybody with Java skills is welcome to volunteer (send me a PM) and learn about it/work on fixes.
     
  16. Nov 5, 2009 #2536 of 5687
    csell

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    Good to know! And thanks for working on that (as well as the others)...
     
  17. Nov 5, 2009 #2537 of 5687
    spocko

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    When Tivo Desktop 2.8 was initially posted, the following statement was included under "New features":

    That statement has since been removed. I don't know if it was just a mistake, or if it is a real change in TD 2.8. Since this statement was listed only for TD Plus, and specifically says "web videos", I assume it was referring to pushes. Maybe TD 2.8 does something new with the push interface? Maybe something that pyTivo can also take advantage of? Just thinking out loud here. :)
     
  18. Nov 5, 2009 #2538 of 5687
    moyekj

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    Don't know for sure but I suspect that whoever wrote that was thinking that MPEG4 videos were always transcoded to MPEG2 before transferring to Series 3 Tivos. I bet you TD 2.8 still can't handle native pushes of H.264 video + AC3 audio, so pyTivo is still superior in that regard.
    "MPEG4" is too broad of a term when not used in specific context. Do they mean MPEG4 containers in general or are they talking about MPEG4 video? I would suspect the latter. To this point we know H.264 videos can transfer natively. May be worth trying MPEG4 video in MPEG4 container with AAC or AC3 audio to see if perhaps that transfers natively as well... If that's not it then who knows.

    EDIT: Just confirmed that mpeg4 video + AAC audio still does NOT stream natively to Tivos, so looks like it's still H.264 only that Tivo supports in mpeg4 container.
     
  19. Nov 7, 2009 #2539 of 5687
    AZrob

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    Hi all,

    I just installed pyTivo (using the 3-09 Windows install) and then overlaid mcbrine's latest update. I think I did it correctly. I can transfer see and transfer .avi files from the PC to Tivo.

    But when I try to transfer .Tivo files they fail to start the transfer. Either they have a "transfer error" or it says they were deleted immediately due to lack of space - which is not a problem on my Tivo.

    Appreciate any help I can get...

    Thanks,

    Rob from AZ
     
  20. Nov 7, 2009 #2540 of 5687
    cherry ghost

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    My videos path has always been a folder on my E drive and everything worked fine. Today pytivo can't seem to see that particular folder. If I put a video in a folder on my C drive and change the path to that folder, it sees it. Any one else ever experience this? The only thing I can think of that's changed lately is installing desktop 2.8.

    Thanks
     

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