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Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by Bob Lee, Feb 16, 2013.
Fortunately in my case, I'm running it from Windows XP.
Well, out of curiosity, I installed TiVo desktop, and while I enjoyed how easy it is to install, and how user friendly it is to use, I noticed three glaring problems with it:
1) It won't let me directly store shows on my NAS, like pyTiVo will
2) I don't think it'll let me do nested foldering shows, like pyTiVo will. Well I did try to create a shortcut to a folder in the Now Playing folder of TiVo desktop, and it does give me access to the shows in it, but it displays all the shows next to show that aren't foldered, basically shoving all my shows next to each other, and displaying like there's no foldering structure
3) Every once in a while it gets locked up, while it gets busy reading all the shows on my TiVos. But pyTiVo never does this.
At this point, I think I'll probably install a fresh copy of pyTiVo instead of going the TiVo Desktop route.
In my My TiVo Recordings folder I have shortcuts to several folders.
Each folder resides on a single NTFS partition which uses all of a 2TB drive.
Inside each folder are other folders, and folders inside of those.
For instance, in the MTR folder is a shortcut to Zero-M, inside that is ABC, inside that is Castle, and inside that are episodes of Castle moved from the MTR folder.
When I go to a TiVo's NPL, the MTR folder shows up labled with the computer name. Inside it is the Zero-M folder, inside that is ABC, inside that is Castle, inside that are the actual shows.
Would I prefer being able to get Desktop to copy a Castle episode directly to \Castle? Of course, especially if it were as part of a batch file that would do that and then copy a Merlin episode to the target of My TiVo Recordings\N-Z\SyFy\Merlin\ instead of me having to move them manually, but I can present them on the NPL sorted into their own folders.
Oh, I guess I didn't test what it would look like from a TiVo, but in the NPL on the actual computer that has TiVo desktop installed, it didn't seem to show the folders separated like that.
You mean the screen that first comes up when you launch Desktop?
Yeah, that's just a flat file list for some reason.
These things happen when software is designed and tested without any input from me.
It used to be that TD presented a flattened hierarchy to the TiVo (and pyTivo did some tricks to deal with this), which I guess is why that screen is still that way.
I've noticed that if I have a shortcut to another drive in the MTR folder on the PC and that drive doesn't happen to be connected at the time that Desktop won't open properly when I try to launch it.
Well, I did wind up installing the latest version of pyTiVo, and everything is working nicely now.
Well it's not working nicely anymore. Often the browser screen shows this error:
Unable to Connect to TiVo
"pyTivo was unable to connect to the TiVo at <my ip address>.
This is most likely caused by an incorrect Media Access Key. Please return to the Web Configuration page and double check your tivo_mak setting."
Yet the MAK is fine. I wind up having to restart pyTiVo, but the same error keeps happening. Though once I actually got Error 401.
Is everybody else's pyTiVo working?
This error is preventing anything from transferring right now.
I use Desktop, but also got a MAK error today, had to re-enter it.
Maybe it was something about the time change?
Try rebooting the TiVo. Although most likely it's a network problem.
I get the same error, no matter which TiVo I pick. My network seems to be working fine though, in the sense that I can access other computers and my NAS, and if I restart pyTiVo, I can see the TiVos fine. But once I try to transfer anything, these errors occur.
I wonder if it has to do with how I reinstalled pyTiVo. I extracted over the existing directory, as I was told, but I did back up pytivo.conf and pytivo.conf.dist before doing that, and I then restored those files back after the reinstall, so I wouldn't have to redo them. I wonder if that goofed up anything.
The funny thing is; yesterday I could transfer files.
It's hard to see how restarting helps, unless you have some weird firewall behavior that lets through the early connections and then clamps down. Or, maybe if your TiVos' IPs are rapidly changing, leaving pyTivo with the wrong idea of where they are. I can't imagine why that would happen, but I don't know anything about your network, and it's at least theoretically possible.
I doubt that extracting over the old directory would be the issue; but on the other hand, you might as well blow it away, and extract to an empty directory (copying pyTivo.conf out and back, as before -- but there's no reason to save pyTivo.conf.dist; it's just an example file).
Hmm... I suppose your previous version might be old enough to predate the reorganization of the Admin plugin? What does your pyTivo.conf look like?
Okay, I did exactly this, and it seemed to do the trick. The 5 shows I transferred last night worked. Thanks for suggesting this.
It will usually cause problems on Win7 if the directory is in the Program Files or Program Files (x86) folder. The current pyTivo wiki install instructions advise against using such locations. I strongly suspect the same applies to Win8 and Vista. Not sure about Win XP.