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Project Runway Season 12 - all season thread - spoilers to date!

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by murgatroyd, Jul 19, 2013.

  1. Sep 30, 2013 #81 of 102
    jradosh

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    I see what you did there. :p
     
  2. Sep 30, 2013 #82 of 102
    murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    I can't blame you. The number of times I've thought "I wish I had the right body type to wear that look" has been painfully low this season.
     
  3. Sep 30, 2013 #83 of 102
    tem

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    Kate's whole "binary code" think made no sense. What she should have done is some sort of design that looked solid from a distance but up close it was all ones and zeroes.

    I'm bummed she blew it. She was in the top 6 weeks w/ one win and had never been in the bottom. I thought she, Helen, Dom and Brandon were locks for fashion week. Now, either Alexandria (3 top 3,1 win, 3 botom) or Justin (1 top, 3 bottom, saved) might make it.
     
  4. Oct 1, 2013 #84 of 102
    murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    If there has ever been an argument to have a smaller contingent at Fashion Week, this season is it.
     
  5. Oct 4, 2013 #85 of 102
    betts4

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

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    10/3 Avant garde challenge

    Once again, I didn't understand how Alexandria work was any good. It looked like the same old hot mess it always is. Black, torn up and ugly. I did like her remake though.

    Loved everyone else's stuff and would have been tough to decide. The orange dress was something like what we had seen before but it was different for that designer I think. Branden and Justin's I really liked...both the avant garde and the remakes.
     
  6. Oct 4, 2013 #86 of 102
    Regina

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    Loved the idea of re-working the "losing" looks. They all looked great-and I will admit I teared up when Justin took his own look back. Good for him! It looked great!

    Helen seems to freak out then pull it together-maybe she's not cut out for the stress of high fashion...

    Alexandria-UGH-that was a costume!

    Justin-he has steadily improved throughout the competition, and I agree with the judges, the avant-garde look was his best yet!

    Very proud of Braden and Dom, they were early picks for me and I am super psyched to see what they come up with ...

    Next week will be interesting!
     
  7. Oct 4, 2013 #87 of 102
    murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    There was an episode of Say Yes to the Dress (the wedding-dress shopping show on TLC) a while ago where one of the brides brought a gay best friend who didn't like lace. She would come out onto the runway showing off a dress and the guy would say "It's lace." in this "oh it's nasty" tone of voice. It sort of became an earworm with me -- when I see lace dresses I don't like, I say "ugh, it's lace" just the same way.

    Alexandria's work this season is pushing me very hard towards seeing black stuff and thinking "it's black" in that same inner voice. I have a lot of black in my wardrobe (some because I like it, but a lot of the time, through necessity, because the other color choices won't work for me), but I'm getting really sick of Alexandra doing nothing else. I don't know why the judges haven't called her on it, the same way they did about Ven doing his rose over and over. It's a cheap trick to hide the messiness of your design and construction (fortunately with the new segment where the judges get a closer look after the runway, the show has closed that loophole).

    So what do we think about Tim strong-arming Helen into ditching her black cape / cocoon? I wonder what the judges would have thought if her model had worn it on the pass down the runway, then shed it for at the end, and showed off the orange dress on the way back? I understand Tim's concern, but it was the avant-garde challenge!

    I would have liked to have seen the garment in motion.

    I also liked the challenge to re-make the losing looks. One problem I had with Helen's garment is that it was simply a remake of shapes which she has already shown us multiple times over the course of the season.

    Contrast that with Bradon's remake, which stayed true to the lines of the original designer's work.

    Good for Justin, for showing that he can take a note. He finally got the chance to show the judges he can turn out a cute shorter dress.

    I agree with Regina (and with the judges). Bradon and Dom were early standouts, so it's no surprise they were put through to Fashion week. I was expecting the #3 slot to be a contest between Kate and Helen. :(

    Nina was not the only one to pick up on the fact that no one else picked Alexandria for the "person I'd like to go to Fashion Week" with. And I don't think it was for a "vote the strongest person off the island" reason, either.
     
  8. Oct 4, 2013 #88 of 102
    Cainebj

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    well i understand his WTF moment with it but you are right - she ditched her avant garde look when she probably shouldn't have.

    i think the 3 of them battling out for it seemed about right.

    i still think Kate should have been in the top 3 with Dom and Braden. in fact, when all those losing designs were shown i thought for a moment they were all coming back to compete for a spot and immediately thought Kate would get it and now i get it - only... that didn't happen.
     
  9. Oct 4, 2013 #89 of 102
    betts4

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    I think it should have been Kate not Alexandria in the battle for top 3.

    murgatroyd, I get what you are saying about black dresses, but that's not what I feel Alexandria is turning out. She is putting out not JUST a black dress but at least twice now it has been a black dress with shredded edges and sort of just hanging on to the form, not seeming to fit and yet the judges go all crazy about it.
     
  10. Oct 6, 2013 #90 of 102
    murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    I didn't link to all the photos from the Project Runway site, but you can see all the designers' Rate The Runway photos, starting here:

    http://www.mylifetime.com/shows/project-runway/season-12/rate-the-runway/episode-1#id=1

    Alexandra has sent a LOT of neutrals down the runway. She's also done a lot of really messy looks.

    We don't have access to the judges' numbers, but we can look at the fan votes.

    The ratings legend: 1 = Poor, 2 = Okay, 3 = Good 4 = Great, 5 = Awesome.

    The lame garment descriptions are mine. ;)

    1. close-fitting dress, blue with black details and cutouts / Overall Rating: 2.58 (Total votes: 8758)
    2. messy black V-neck gown / Overall Rating: 3.09 (Total votes: 7671)
    3. (team with Dom) blue Japanese character dress /
      Overall Rating: 3.76 (Total votes: 6102)
    4. sloppy cream halter top and sloppy skirt w/asymetrical hem (tie accents on halter top) / Overall Rating: 2.63 (Total votes: 5903)
    5. V-neck top from silver placemats and black skirt /
      Overall Rating: 2.05 (Total votes: 4883)
    6. grey jacket and cream droopy diaper pants / Overall Rating: 2.6 (Total votes: 5623)
    7. gladiator sandals and black rag dress / Overall Rating: 3.14 (Total votes: 5076)
    8. (sportswear challenge) black funnel-neck jacket and knee-length shorts/leggings / Overall Rating: 1.48
      (Total votes: 4187)
    9. blue/burgundy/black plaid? dress with asymetric hemline and lopsided hybrid square-V-neck bodice / Overall Rating: 1.65 (Total votes: 5515)
    10. interview look sloppy black jacket, white top, short skirt w/ dark print / Overall Rating: 1.91 (Total votes: 4148)
    11. messy white top, black raggy short top, neutral-print skirt with raggy black trim (the "homeless person wrapped in a newspaper" skirt) / Overall Rating: 1.24
      (Total votes: 4986)
    12. look 1 -- black butterfly dress / Overall Rating: 2.32
      (Total votes: 2208); look 2 -- rework of Sue's plaid pants -- plaid pants, dark top, white vest painted with black /
      Overall Rating: 2.12 (Total votes: 2115)

    Out of 13 looks, three of them are rated 3 or higher, and one of those was a team challenge with Dom. The rest are in the 1s and 2s. If we translated that to school letter grades, her work is rarely above a D+.

    Contrast the fan votes for Justin's looks:
    1. Overall Rating: 3.2 (Total votes: 8285)
    2. Overall Rating: 3.41 (Total votes: 7416)
    3. [team: Justin & Alexander] Overall Rating: 1.51
      (Total votes: 6077)
    4. Overall Rating: 2.46 (Total votes: 5608
    5. Overall Rating: 2.26 (Total votes: 4702)
    6. Overall Rating: 2.24 (Total votes: 5273) [elimination / Tim Gunn's save]
    7. Overall Rating: 3.11 (Total votes: 4898)
    8. Overall Rating: 2.96 (Total votes: 3869)
    9. Overall Rating: 3.12 (Total votes: 5123)
    10. Overall Rating: 3.99 (Total votes: 4099) [real person challenge / signature dress]
    11. Overall Rating: 2.69 (Total votes: 4646)
    12. butterfly dress: Overall Rating: 3.65 (Total votes: 2012) / rework of elimination dress Overall Rating: 3.65
      (Total votes: 2012)
     
  11. Oct 11, 2013 #91 of 102
    lalouque

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    First of all, Tim was in my city and I didn't somehow SENSE he was here and stalk him???? Darn it, I missed my opportunity! :p

    I think they called it right to eliminate Helen. Especially when they showed her work up close with all the details. And I wasn't surprised to see her struggle. I think she needed the structure of having a "challenge" to meet instead of being totally open ended in what she can do.

    I still totally do NOT understand why Heidi (and other judges) are in love with Alexandria's work. It all looks so sloppy and has zero color. And those "hats" with the feathers.... does not compute with me. On a different note, how much is she going to charge for those dolls that the kids created??? Those were FANTASTIC!

    Looking forward to the final runway! I really love Justin's collection, but have my doubts if he can top Dom or Bradon.
     
  12. Oct 11, 2013 #92 of 102
    betts4

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    Ditto ditto and ditto on this post. Well not the part about him being in my city, but the rest.

    I loved Justin's 3 pieces. I wasn't crazy about Alexandria's. But OMG what the heck was that last thing that Helen sent out? The woman couldn't move. I wonder if she had done something else to the arms she may have had a better chance? I was wincing as I watched that model walk down the runway.
     
  13. Oct 12, 2013 #93 of 102
    murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    I just don't get it. She's been turning out monochromatic rags all season long. What is there to like? :confused:
     
  14. Oct 12, 2013 #94 of 102
    Cainebj

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    I also agree with Helen going home and I think Justin really did better than I thought he was capable of...

    I actually do get Alexandria's stuff - I just think it's kindof boring in comparison - as the judges said no wow factor for a runway. Compared to what she did during the competition with not much time, the stuff she put out seemed to be well made. Still way boring but well made.

    Not to mention she has the personality of a wet sponge.

    I would have been fine with a Bradon/Dom/Justin finale (although I STILL think Kate was robbed) - Alex being there doesn't make a difference one way or the other, she will never win.
     
  15. Oct 12, 2013 #95 of 102
    LordXenophon

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    Justin will never win, either. He's been pumping out some great stuff all season, but the judges slam it every time. I'm not convinced they take him seriously.

    Alexandria should have been let go two weeks ago. Justin earned his victory, and the judges robbed him of it by making him compete twice for the same thing, just because they didn't want to let him win.

    I know who will win because of a SPOILER. If you want to know, look at which of them is shown in the commercial for the next All Stars. They started running the commercial a couple of weeks ago.
     
  16. Oct 13, 2013 #96 of 102
    Cainebj

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    Without revealing any names...
    How do you know they won? PR All Stars is not all winners it's past contestants and I somehow or other doubt they would call out the current season winner in a commercial...
    although dumber things have happened...

    I was once watching another competition show where they showed a commercial for the next episode before the final segment thereby revealing who got eliminated before airing it. Dumb.
     
  17. Oct 16, 2013 #97 of 102
    murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    When shows collide!

    There's an episode of What Not to Wear with a tallish lanky blonde who used to be a Mennonite. Her wardrobe is entirely neutrals -- khaki pants, white shirts, etc. Black pants. Beige skirt. The only color showing in her secret footage is a pair of medium-wash blue jeans.

    With a little wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey handwaving, Wanda the uber-plain family therapist, pre-makeover, could be Alexandria's secret muse.

    P.S. how long will it be before Helen shows up on All-Stars?
     
  18. Oct 17, 2013 #98 of 102
    LordXenophon

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    The All Stars are losers from previous seasons, so the person in the commercial did not win.
     
  19. Oct 18, 2013 #99 of 102
    Cainebj

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    and the winner is...

    speaking in tongues in case anyone hasn't watched yet :)

    no big surprise except for the order of who went and the final 2

    i guess it made sense but whiny OCD cry baby much?
    oy...

    my front runner messed up and i agreed with what Nina said about that person


    I am pretty sure they have had at least one past season winner. Haven't they? Either way every time I saw a commercial for all stars I muted my audio, closed my eyes and fast forwarded - LOL
     
  20. Cearbhaill

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    Them:- "So Toni- why should you win Project Runway?"

    Me:- "I would never presume to say I want it more than anyone else. We all want it very badly- everyone involved this season came here with a fire and wanted to walk away as the winner.

    I would also never say that I worked harder than anyone else- you don't get here without working hard. We have all faced challenges and sacrificed other things in order to get to this stage in the competition.

    What I would say is that I have presented a collection worthy of winning Project Runway. I have designed clothing that has my own stamp on it- clothes that are undeniably my design. I have designed garments that are marketable, that can be mass produced economically, and that many different types of women will buy.
    My designs are young and edgy and yet timeless, and they are thoughtfully designed and all have featured impeccable construction.

    That is why I should win Project Runway."

    IMO anything more is drama llama BS.
     

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