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Press release: TiVo Launches Four Tuner TiVo Premiere 4

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by TiVoStephen, Aug 16, 2012.

  1. vurbano

    vurbano New Member

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    I'll pass. TiVo will have to move to a more powerful processor before they get anymore of my money. Until then having 6 tuners spread out over 3 units is fine.
     
  2. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Active Member

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    Seriously? Have you never watched Burn Notice, White Collar, Franklin and Bash, Suits, Falling Skies, Leverage, Breaking Bad, and The Closer (now morphed to Major Crimes), just to name a few. There are some great new shows that air during the summer months.
     
  3. Einselen

    Einselen ɹǝsn pǝɹǝʇsıƃǝɹ

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    I do watch some summer series, however compared to the fall I have a lot more additional time.
     
  4. lrhorer

    lrhorer New Member

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    Could you name a few for us? The ones you mention are all crap - some crappier than others. I'll allow, however, they are generally speaking a bit better than the junk aired in the fall. I'll even allow Falling Skies is at least watchable, and espouses some important positive values, but the way it obviously attempts to manipulate the viewer is highly offensive.

    And yes, I've looked at them. I never criticize without actually sampling an item. (Well, I haven't seen an episode of Major Crimes, but I have seen The Closer.) All of them cater to base, sensationalist emotions and seek to addict the viewer to ongoing consumption, just like a drug pusher does. If they did not, then the advertisers would never spend a penny on them. In any case, ten years from now, my life would not be richer for having watched Franklin and Bash. In twenty years, I suspect almost no one under 40 will know what Burn Notice was. Great? They aspire to being blandly mediocre. More than 400 years after they were written, virtually every literate individual on the planet knows both the name and the stories of Hamlet, Macbeth, and Romeo and Juliet. Lord knows how many times those plays have been produced and each one has been made into several movies. Nearly every one has been nominated for numerous Oscars, and quite a few have won one or more. Dozens, perhaps hundreds of theatrical, film, and television productions have been derived from each of the original works, again many of them gathering numerous awards. Nearly 2500 years later, the same is true of Oedipus Rex and Antigone, even though some of the original text is lost. I submit the same will be true in another 400 years. I doubt even you would argue Leverage will be on the tongue of nearly every human being on the planet in 400 years.

    Great? I think not. Entertaining? Meah. I'll give you the ones you listed are better than Jerry Springer, or The Apprentice, but that is saying very little. If those are my only choices for TV viewing, I'll read a few books, thanks.
     
  5. lpwcomp

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    lhorer, why should anyone give more credence to your opinion of the above shows than you seem to give to the opinion of GBS, Tolstoy, Walt Whitman, Voltaire, etc. (with whom I also disagree), regarding Shakespeare?
     
  6. aaronwt

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    I think there is more new TV content on in the Summer now than during the regular season. This is the first year I've watched more TV programming during the summer than during the regular TV season and this is going back forty years.

    Of course last season I also watched the least amount of TV programming during the regular season as well. Summer used to be the time I watched more movies. But now it seems like I will be watching more movies during the regular season and watching more TV in the Summer.
     
  7. David Platt

    David Platt !Texas TCF Club

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    We shouldn't give credence to ANYONE who labels 'Breaking Bad' as crap. It is widely regarded as one of the best (if not THE best) show on TV right now, and an argument could be made that is among the best of all time.
     
  8. HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    TiVoStephen,

    Thanks for posting the press release here! This does seem to bridge the gap between the Premiere and Premiere XL4 nicely.

    Scott
     
  9. Zaphod

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    I saw this pop up on my Tivo HD today and was all set to move up for the $249. I have 2 Tivo HD's now and still end up sometimes running into a situation where I have too many shows on one of them at the same time just because I lose track of what's on one device or the other for a given night and time, or a show changes time slots that conflicts with other existing stuff (now, if Tivo would only do cooperative scheduling between multiple Tivos!!).

    So I figure 4 tuners for $249, I'm in!! But then I just saw no OTA tuner. Sorry, that's a deal killer for me.

    1. There are actually some local OTA channels we don't get over our cable system that I do record today.

    2. I've had too many times where the cable goes out (not Tivo's fault, but...) during a critical recording (finale of Survivor, some other important show that is likely not to be rebroadcast any time soon), so I set everything I can on network TV that's from my local stations to record OTA so I don't have to worry if the cable goes out (and it has saved me a couple times). But I do also still record plenty from cable channels that aren't local too.

    I know my uncle would probably go for one of these who also has two Tivo HD's and had similar scheduling issues, but he lives out in the country and doesn't get cable, only OTA, so I guess this is not for him either.
     
  10. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Active Member

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    Ellicott...
    lrhorer spends most of his time crapping on everyone else's opinion so take it for what it's worth (does crap ring a bell?;)). He likes to think that his taste in TV programming is far and above what we peons like to watch so I've learned to ignore his ramblings. What amazes me is that he owns four Tivos yet constantly declares that there's nothing on TV worth watching.
     
  11. unitron

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    Well, look how many tuners you're running in order to be able to prove there's nothing on worth watching.:rolleyes:
     
  12. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Active Member

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    Ellicott...
    Seems to me that would prove the exact opposite. FWIW, five of the tuners are shared with other PCs (two ATSC and three digital cable). Although the main PC has access to them it's unlikely it will ever actually use any of them. I was originally using one Ceton InfiniTV4 and two Hauppauge 2250 ATSC tuners. For some reason WMC wasn't using any of the digital cable tuners from the networked HDHomeRun Prime, even though at least one tuner was always available. I had an extra InfiniTV4 sitting idle so I thought I'd add it to the mix to pick up the slack. Most of the shows I record during the summer are all on FIOS and not available via OTA. With the fall season about to gear up the 2nd InfiniTV4 will mostly be taking up space.
     
  13. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    Except for the too-small 500GB drive - a 4-tuner box should have 1TB minimum.
     
  14. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Active Member

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    In today's market and available drive sizes it should come with a 2TB drive as a minimum. 500GB is an absolute joke.
     
  15. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    This is probably because this is the configuration that the cable companies use with the Premiere Q.

    But i do agree, 500GB is too small. Although I think that even a 2TB drive is too small.
     
  16. daveak

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    Is it impossible to upgrade the drive?
     
  17. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Active Member

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    Ellicott...
    Right now I don't believe there are any user available upgrade options other than possibly purchasing a pre-configured drive from Weaknees or other vendor, assuming they're even available. Tivo has been tighter with their security measures with regards to hacking with each new model they release. It's a shame because hackability was always my No. 1 reason for going with Tivo over other DVRs.

    I no longer have any reason to be loyal to Tivo since they've taken away the one feature I found most attractive. Tivo announced at the very beginning that they would eventually be providing drive upgrades to Tivo owners, but that never materialized. Perhaps they worked out some sort of arrangement with Weaknees and DVRUpgrade to handle that part of the market so they wouldn't have to. Problem is, the price of the upgrade drives is much too high for what you get, especially when you consider that it used to be a simple task to upgrade a drive you purchased yourself at a considerably lower cost.
     
  18. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    You can use DVR_Dude to upgrade at a lower price. I've been pleased with his service in the past and would have no problem using him again in the future if I need to.
     
  19. lpwcomp

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    Then the only difference between a 4 and an XL4 would be THX certification, hardly justifying a $150 price reduction.

    Does anyone have any reason to think that JMFS won't work? It is possible that it won't, but I wouldn't reject it until it has been tried.
     
  20. SnakeEyes

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    I don't think I've ever seen him mention what he considers quality TV, just thread craps on others
     

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