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Press release: TiVo Launches Four Tuner TiVo Premiere 4

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by TiVoStephen, Aug 16, 2012.

  1. TiVoStephen

    TiVoStephen formerly TiVoOpsMgr

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    Hey folks,

    Just wanted to pass on our press release from this morning:

    TiVo Launches Four Tuner ‘TiVo Premiere 4’

    New Product Solves the Sunday Night TV Show Pile-Up and Allows Users to Record Four Shows at One Time

    ALVISO, CALIF., August 15, 2012 – TiVo Inc. (NASDAQ: TIVO), the creator of and leader in advanced television services including digital video recorders (DVRs), today announced the launch of its TiVo® Premiere 4, a set-top box designed to solve program scheduling conflicts and allow families to record all of their favorite shows, while simultaneously serving as the hub to a TiVo whole home-setup. With four digital tuners to record four programs simultaneously, up to 75 hours of HD recording space and access to a massive library of web-delivered entertainment, the TiVo Premiere 4 is the ideal DVR for any household of TV enthusiasts.

    “The TiVo Premiere 4 solves the pileup of must-see shows like Sunday nights when “Mad Men,” “Breaking Bad,” “Nurse Jackie,” “Girls,” “Celebrity Apprentice,” “Game of Thrones,” “Homeland,” “The Good Wife,” “True Blood,” “Political Animals,” and “Family Guy” can overlap in a logjam of popular shows,” said Doug Bieter, Vice President of Retail Sales for TiVo. “The increasing demand for a solution to this problem and the strong feedback we have already received regarding our four tuner, two terabyte TiVo Premiere XL4 inspired us to develop this new product for consumers wanting an affordable, user-friendly solution. The TiVo Premiere 4 will allow you to go shopping every Sunday night for your week’s worth of shows – it’s the warehouse store of television and now viewers can stock up their TiVo without having to worry about scheduling conflicts.”

    Exceptional Recording and Integration Capabilities
    Enhancing the TiVo Premiere 4’s functionality as the ultimate at-home entertainment device is the offering of MoCA as a networking option in addition to its integrated Ethernet connectivity. Utilizing integrated MoCA support, custom installers can use the coaxial cabling within the home to connect the TiVo Premiere 4 to the home network in setups where an Ethernet connection is not available to the DVR. Home theater installers and custom integrators will also appreciate the TiVo Premiere 4 as an exceptional solution through its compatibility with some of the most popular home automation controllers, including Crestron, Control4, and RTI. This compatibility allows installers to seamlessly incorporate the TiVo Premiere 4 into existing home controls.

    Award-Winning User Experience
    Harnessing the power of the world’s most innovative user experience, the TiVo Premiere 4 offers an intuitive search and browsing experience that enables users to quickly and easily find or discover television and broadband programs from a convenient unified screen. When searching for a particular program, TiVo Search scans across cable channels as well as web-based on demand services like Netflix, Amazon Instant Video and Hulu Plus.

    The TiVo Premiere 4 can also take advantage of TiVo’s integrated apps for iPad, iPhone and iPod Touch. The TiVo App brings intuitive remote control operations to the tips of users’ fingers with simple gesture-based controls. Users can quickly uncover program guides and information, view, schedule and manage recordings, get recommendations, or even explore an actor’s entire career with a single tap.

    TiVo Premiere 4 Specifications:
    • TiVo Series4TM architecture
    • Intended for use with digital cable systems only and does not work with analog cable or over-the-air antennas
    • Supports digital cable (QAM only), and Verizon FiOS®
    • Outputs: HDMI, Component video, Composite video, Optical audio, Analog audio
    • Video output modes include: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
    • Inputs: CableCARDTM support, Cable coax, Ethernet connection, two USB 2.0 ports, eSATA, MoCA
    • Audio: Dolby 5.1
    • Additional support for USB 2.0 (2 ports), eSATA for external recording space, TiVo Wireless N or G Network Adapter
    • 500 GB of recording space for up to 75 hours of recorded HD programming
    • Dimensions: 16.5” x 9.7” x 2.4”
    • Weight: 6.64 pounds

    The TiVo Premiere 4 is now available through tivo.com, and will be coming soon to home theater and Magnolia stores nationwide, with an MSRP of $249.99 (plus a monthly service fee of $14.99 with a one-year commitment). For additional product information, please visit www.tivo.com/p4.

    # # #

    About TiVo
    Founded in 1997, TiVo Inc. (NASDAQ: TIVO) developed the first commercially available digital video recorder (DVR), and today TiVo is a global leader in advanced television service offering products on multiple platforms and devices. TiVo offers its service directly to consumers, and also distributes its technology and services through solutions tailored for cable, satellite and broadcasting companies. Since its founding, TiVo has evolved into the ultimate single-solution media center by combining its patented DVR technologies and universal cable box capabilities with the ability to aggregate, search and deliver millions of pieces of broadband, cable and broadcast content directly to the television. TiVo also continues to weave itself into the fabric of the media industry by providing interactive advertising solutions and audience research and measurement ratings services to the television industry.

    TiVo and the TiVo Logo are trademarks or registered trademarks of TiVo Inc. or its subsidiaries worldwide. © 2012 TiVo Inc. All rights reserved. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners.
     
  2. MeInDallas

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    Do you know if the new Premiere 4 uses the same motherboard, power supply, and tuners as the regular Premiere, or does it have the same stuff the Elite/XL4 has inside? I had 3 Elites and could never get them to work, so I would hope that this one might work for me. Do you know anything about it?
     
  3. lafos

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    Dropped cable, so this has no appeal. Now, if it could do OTA...
     
  4. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    99.9% sure this is just an Elite/XL4 with a smaller drive and no THX certification. They're just trying to get a 4 tuner model out that has lower entry point.

    Dan
     
  5. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    No OTA?


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  6. MeInDallas

    MeInDallas Member

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    Thanks, I'll pass then :(
     
  7. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    4 tuners and only 500GB?

    That's the kind of fail I'd expect from a cable co DVR.

    Of course, no analog, no OTA, I guess this is a cable co DVR, only with the ability to interact with other TiVos and TiVo Desktop (until the cable co copy protects everything just because they can).
     
  8. mattack

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    A family?

    Heck, 4 tuners doesn't allow ME to record all of my favorite shows (including padding needed).. But I've been "limping by" on 2 digital + a couple of analog tuners (usually only use 1, sometimes 2) for a while... It makes me more carefully prune what I want to record.

    But seriously, to have pre- and post- padding on everything I record, plus enough tuners, I'd probably need 8 tuners to REALLY get everything I wanted.

    I just verified on tivo.com. You can still get lifetime, despite what is said in the press release.
     
  9. tootal2

    tootal2 New Member

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    I will not be buying becouse it does not have ota. If it had ota i would buy one
     
  10. atmuscarella

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    The Premiere 4 is an enter level 4 tuner digital cable DVR why is that FUD?

    The Premiere XL is discontinued already. Why would they would having a 4 tuner digital cable only DVR have anything to do with needing to discontinue TiVo's Premiere which is their enter level dual tuner analog & digital OTA and cable DVR?
     
  11. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Active Member

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    I think this looks like a carbon copy of what TiVo is providing cable companies now. The Elite/4XL was/is the premium product - this is the entry level companion.
     
  12. jrtroo

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    This seems to be a great opportunity for those needing 4 tuners to hit a lower price point. Many complained earlier about the XL4 pricing, so this will help make those customers happy, and was clearly a low cost for TiVo to create.

    I would expect that the Comer upgrade would work for DIYers, and that this will link nicely with the new hardware we expect later this year.

    I'm very interested, especially if I can just drop my 2TB drive my my existing premiere into this (C&DE, of course) and then sell my premiere.

    If you don't want it, then don't buy it!
     
  13. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    4 tuners in a single box is really great. For many years I had two 2 tuners TiVos, a S3 and an original Premiere, with 4 tuners between them. But managing them was a hassle and occasionally resulted in missed recordings or overlap chopping due to conflicts. With everything on one box it seems to be a lot more seamless and I rarely have a conflict or overlap trim.

    Dan
     
  14. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Active Member

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    Ellicott...
    How about 17 tuners in one box that can do both digital cable and OTA, distribute recordings anywhere in the house, play Blu-Rays and DVDs, NetFlix or any other streaming service, play video games, let you surf the web, check e-mail and just about anything else you can think of with no monthly fees other than your TV provider and a few cablecards?:D
     
  15. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Sounds like it would be very, very, expensive and require a LOT of electricity to run.

    Dan
     
  16. johnd01

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    That would be nice.. How about co-op recording a group of series 4s?
    That way you can add tuners in pairs as far as you want to go.
     
  17. mattack

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    Is it as reliable as a TiVo? Do you miss recordings?

    How much power does it use?
     
  18. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    Why no 4 Tuner OTA? That's the only way I would be interested.
     
  19. Einselen

    Einselen ɹǝsn pǝɹǝʇsıƃǝɹ

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    As a single guy I am not sure if I want this one or the XL4. 300 hrs is a lot in the XL4, but I can save up some shows for the summer or midseason breaks where there isn't much new content on TV.
     
  20. mr.unnatural

    mr.unnatural Active Member

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    Ellicott...
    It's a lot less expensive than the equivalent number of Tivos it would require to have that many tuners. Once you get past the cost of the initial build, adding more tuners is dirt cheap. Digital cable tuners factor in at about $50 apiece and ATSC tuners can run you about $25-50 each, depending on which models you choose and if you go with new or used. I'd wager that my HTPC uses less electricity than multiple Tivos since it's all contained in a single chassis. My build is older so it's not as energy efficient as a newer Sandy Bridge configuration. The problem with the latest Tivos is that you'd need multiple Tivos if you want both digital cable and OTA. All I had to do was add a couple of OTA tuners at a cost that was just a fraction of a Tivo and lifetime service. You're also limited to using a fixed number of tuners in a Tivo and don't have access to the full complement of both OTA and digital cable. It kinda sucks to have a four-tuner box that only lets you use two at any given time.

    Yes, and it doesn't reboot randomly in the middle of a recording like my Tivos used to do. My current primary HTPC has been running flawlessly with zero down time for over two years. I also have a Dell Zino HD that I use for the family room TV that's been running fine for a bit longer. I rebuilt my main system just prior to that and had issues with the motherboard I was using, but once I got one that worked it was smooth sailing. My previous system worked fine but my USB tuners had a habit of dropping off-line every few months, causing me to rerun WMC setup. That turned out to be a flaky external USB hub. Once I switched to all internal tuners and SiliconDust networked HDHomeRun tuners I've had no more tuner problems.

    I don't recall ever missing a recording that was due to a fault with the HTPC. I've had recordings that were screwed up for one reason or another, but that hasn't happened since I got the signal strength sorted out. FIOS tends to provide a very strong signal so it was over-driving the tuners and causing pixelisation.

    I've never connected a Kill-a-Watt meter to it to check, although I've been tempted to buy one. I've got at least four PCs and a server than run 24/7 so one HTPC doesn't have as huge an impact on my electric bill as you might think.
     

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