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Preparing for Tivo Premiere XL4 setup on FIOS

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by cyberbeach, Sep 3, 2012.

  1. Sep 3, 2012 #1 of 13
    cyberbeach

    cyberbeach Mere member

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    How many cablecards should I order from Verizon for a Tivo Premiere XL4?

    Guessing 2 M cards?

    My searching is bringing up a lot of noise - can anyone point me to the best instructions for setting it up including troubleshooting (used to be on DSLReports for some weird reason)?

    Also any prep advice is appreciated.

    Amazon has just shipped the Tivo - I can call Verizon Tuesday to get cards.

    EDIT: Oops - Amazon only acknowledged the order - has not shipped.
     
  2. Sep 3, 2012 #2 of 13
    BigJimOutlaw

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    Only 1 M-card.

    Setting up a Tivo for the first time is a fairly straightforward process, though a bit time-consuming because it will make multiple connections and install the latest software, etc. So begin the process when you have spare time to burn.

    Just pop the card in the slot and begin Guided Setup. Verizon will include simple instructions on how to activate the cablecard (you can do it online.) But begin the Tivo Guided Setup process before trying to activate the card. The card has to be connected and plugged in for the activation to work.

    Just follow the on-screen steps. It should be relatively painless, except for the time it spends getting the software up to date.
     
  3. Sep 4, 2012 #3 of 13
    cyberbeach

    cyberbeach Mere member

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    For some reason I thought that the M-card was two streams, so for 4 tuners you would need two.
     
  4. Sep 4, 2012 #4 of 13
    aaronwt

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    One M-card can handle up to six tuners.
     
  5. Sep 4, 2012 #5 of 13
    cyberbeach

    cyberbeach Mere member

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    Wow.
     
  6. Jeff Ray

    Jeff Ray New Member

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    Anyone have any advice. We seem to be missing a couple of channels. Would that be a bad cablecard or a bad Tivo tuner. Both are new as is FIOS service. Have a bad feeling that they will point at each other with no easy resolution. Thanks for any advice or experience.
     
  7. aaronwt

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    What do you mean by missing? And what channels are they? If they are HBO or Cinemax then those channels can't be received unless the cable card it paired to the device. AT one point you could receive all channels on FiOS without pairing but then they started restricting HBO and Cinemax. So to view them the cable card needs to be paired to the TiVo. And they can only be streamed to other TiVos. They can't be transferred out of the TiVo. But the other channels should be fine though
     
  8. Jeff Ray

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    Problem was not getting HistHD while getting other channels that came with my package. Not a premium channel issue.

    First, the VZN chat fellows offshore told me that HistHD was not in my package even though website still shows. Then I called VZN billing to inquire and they said it was included and transferred me to VZN tech in US. He reset the cablecard from his end and asked me to turn off Tivo, reset the card, and restart. Voila, the channel now appears, albeit pixelated. He then had me take off the coax and put back on. Now it is fine.
     
  9. Bigg

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    Sounds like you had a local wiring issue. Surprising given that it's FIOS and the RF is generated locally, so it's really hot, but it can happen.
     
  10. beyondthetech

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    I was looking at the old datasheet for the Premiere XL4 that I have:
    tivo.com/assets/images/abouttivo/resources/downloads/brochures/TiVoPremiere-XL4-Datasheet.pdf

    Just signed up for FiOS and got all set up. But, do I really need a CableCARD, or can't I just use the coaxial connection straight into the back of my TiVo? Would I be getting the standard local channels and not what's in my package (only have the Select right now, probably going Preferred in a few days if we're not happy with the limited channel selection).
     
  11. Jeff Ray

    Jeff Ray New Member

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    I put a cablecard in and signed up for preferred. I think you are going to need it to receive any cable channels. this is on the datasheet you attached. am in the process of returning my cablebox this weekend.
     
  12. lpwcomp

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    Without a CableCARD, your TiVo will be able to receive anything that FIOS is still sending unencrypted a.k.a. "clear QAM", which at best is probably limited to local broadcast channels and may be 0. In any case, you will not get TiVo guide data that would enable you to use those channels properly.
     
  13. aaronwt

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    FiOS has several dozen channels in the clear in my area. Not sure what they are though. I only notice them because I have a cable connected directly to several TVs that I periodically check. But I don't actually use theTV tuners. I use the TiVos at each location to view FiOS content.
     

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