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Premiere HD "Image"

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by 01grander, Feb 5, 2011.

  1. Feb 5, 2011 #1 of 17
    01grander

    01grander New Member

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    I upgraded the hd in mine to 1tb and want to reuse the 320gb drive for something else. Anyone know where I could get an image of the hd? But not the full size. I am wanting it in case I ever have to send it in I'll need to swap in the 320 and I'll need it to be formatted correctly and have the software on it.

    Hope I made sense.
     
  2. Feb 6, 2011 #2 of 17
    magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    I'd keep the drive as is and buy another one instead. Just put the 320 in a closet or something. You'll be glad you did.
     
  3. Feb 6, 2011 #3 of 17
    matguy

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    Recertified 320 GB drives are available for under $40 shipped, new ones for $50, both at our well known "egg" supplier. If you just need a drive, smaller recertified drives are under $30.

    Only you can judge worth, but I'm in the "insurance" camp, store it.
     
  4. Feb 6, 2011 #4 of 17
    Worf

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    Hell, you should be able to buy brand new 1TB drives for under $100 retail, not even online, especially on sale.

    Keep the drive as insurance and backup.

    If not, image the disk yourself - though I think you can buy an InstantCake CD for around $40 as well (which contains an officially licensed image for your TiVo).
     
  5. Feb 6, 2011 #5 of 17
    richsadams

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    As others have recommended, don't even think about repurposing it. Put the drive on the shelf. No one has come up with a program (like winMFS or MFSTools) to create a truncated image for the Series4's (Premiere or Premiere XL).

    FWIW you can get a 2TB drive for <$85 now.

    http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digit...XK0I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1296984546&sr=8-1

    With a recent rebate they were $69.99!

    Unfortunately there is no IC image for the Premiere or Premiere XL (even though they have a drop-down box for it, you can't order one). Another reason to save the original drive.
     
  6. Feb 6, 2011 #6 of 17
    01grander

    01grander New Member

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    I'm actually curious what Norton Ghost would do about creating an image. I may just keep it though.
     
  7. Feb 6, 2011 #7 of 17
    richsadams

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    Any cloning program could backup a drive (including the free dd_rescue), but you'd have to backup the entire drive to an equal or larger drive (and there's a chance you could not use that to upgrade to a larger drive later). However what I think you're looking for is a truncated backup of the OS for which there aren't any tools to do that with the Series4 TiVo's to date.

    Putting the original hard drive on the shelf serves several purposes. If/when your new hard drive fails you can slip the original drive back into TiVo and be back up and running in a few minutes. If your TiVo fails for some other reason and you need warranty service you can put the original drive back in and return it (providing you don't mention the upgrade to the CSR). You can always use the original drive to image a new drive if/when your current or any succeeding drives fail. In other words you'll always have a resource; a perfect image.

    Since there are (currently) no Premiere or Premiere XL images available if something goes wrong having the OEM drive available is the least expensive, safest insurance you can buy.
     
  8. Feb 6, 2011 #8 of 17
    lessd

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    Norton Ghost is not a bit for bit copy and will not work with the TiVo but we have tools for making an exact copy of any TiVo disk
     
  9. Feb 6, 2011 #9 of 17
    richsadams

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    Exactly...but the OP is looking to repurpose his OEM drive, and ostensibly wants to keep a copy of the image somewhere. AFAIK that only somewhere would be another drive of the same size or larger...making the repurpose a moot point, yes?
     
  10. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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  11. richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    I completely forgot about that. I don't think I'd attempt it, but for the adventurous...

    For the price of a 320GB drive (or for $30 more for a 2TB drive) I'd still put it on the shelf. ;)
     
  12. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    It's easiest just to keep it around. Although for me I have a habit of never using them again. I have a couple dozen TiVo drives in my closet ranging from 80GB from my old DirectTiVo drives, to the current 320GB drives I replaced in two of my Premieres.
     
  13. macmike12

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    Question will HDClone clone a Tivo drive? I want to put in a 1 tera drive in. Have access to drives SATAs and want to clone over for a Premiere unit. What program will clone if HDClone doesn't send me a link - mail <at> mikealrhughes <dot> com.

    Thanks
     
  14. richsadams

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    Mike...see my response to your duplicate post here:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8451180#post8451180
     
  15. magnus

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    There is no instatcake for Premieres yet. With Weakness buying it, I'm not sure that's ever going to happen anyway.
     
  16. splintersam

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    I was wondering if any of you could save my bacon? I have a TCD746320 whose drive has suddenly stopped functioning properly (after always having been a bit buggy frankly) to the point of giving the welcome screen, pausing there for approximately a minute, then all of the lights on the box flashing and it restarting. This will go on for hours. The drive is corrupted and will not boot. I haven't been successful in restoring it as none of the software I have will recognize something Linux based. Anyway, is it possible to get an image I can put on another drive that will work with this unit? I'm out of warranty, not out of commitment, and can't watch tv at all right now. I had hoped to retrieve my 80% full content, but at this point I'd be ecstatic with just having my Tivo work. I've tried to PM ggieseke as suggested, however I don't have 10 posts so it won't go through. Can anyone help via email or dropbox? I could post inane comments 9 different times, but that seems annoying to all. Thanks!
     
  17. ggieseke

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