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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. sean584995

    sean584995 New Member

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    Thanks Unitron!!!!I was able to find a PC with an unused power and SATA ports that I can use for the new 2TB drive. I'm going to disconnect the main HDD and connect its power and SATA to the drive from TIVO. UPS will be delivering the HD today, so, will try the upgrade tomorrow. I see some posts where the WDidle3 command was being asked to run on the new HD. Is this still needed??


     
  2. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    I just brought a WD20EURS in off of the porch, waiting for it to reach room temp before continuing, will see if it needs wdidle3 or not, but it's available on the hard drives-device info and management menu of the Ultimate Boot CD, a copy of which is a good thing to keep handy, so you could try it and if it doesn't need it, no harm done.
     
  3. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Remember, this WD drive you're getting isn't going to come with a SATA data cable, so be sure you have an extra one available.
     
  4. sean584995

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    Unitron,
    couple more questions. During the copy/expand process, I'm assuming the jmfs live cd software is not going to alter the source TIVO drive? Is 'supersizing' a separate option that can be run or is that part of the copy/expand? Thanks.
    EDIT: is there a good program to run diagnostics on the new WD20EURS drive before using it with jmfs??
     
  5. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    The Ultimate Boot CD has the WD diagnostic software on it (along with the same for several other brands), and wdidle3

    Download the .iso and burn it as an image to a cd-r, just like you need to do with the jmfs cd .iso image.

    jmfs should be able to detect the original 320GB Premiere drive as a TiVo drive, and make a note to itself that it's read only.

    Be sure when you specify the target drive, that you're sure you've selected the WD20EURS.

    jmfs will "Xerox" the original Premiere drive to it and then expand into the extra space by creating an MFS Media partition, and after it does that you can tell it to supersize.

    It'll take you through the whole thing step by step by step by...well, there're only 3 steps, including supersizing.

    Go back and read

    USAGE BASIC

    in the first post of this thread

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8143047#post8143047

    As for the WD diagnostic software, run the short test first (5 minutes), and then if no problem the long test (all day, 8 to 12 hours or so on a drive that large--2TB).

    So it may take you two days, one to run the long test, and another half day to do the jmfs voodoo.

    And run wdidle3 first to get it out of the way in case it is neccessary.

    Have the 2TB be the only hard drive connected when you run it.

    It's a DOS command line thing, so


    wdidle3 /D

    should disable it (you have to hit the Enter key after typing that in), and if it doesn't like the /D switch, then

    wdidle3 /S 300

    should set it for 300 seconds (five minutes), which is just as good as disabled from the TiVo standpoint.

    What you're trying to avoid is a situation where, if the TiVo reboots, it spends so much time on other stuff before it tries to load anything from the hard drive that the hard drive thinks it's not needed and goes to sleep, which means it doesn't respond fast enough when the TiVo calls on it, which makes the TiVo think there's a problem, so it reboots, at which point the hard drive isn't being talked to so it goes back to sleep so it's not ready when the TiVo is, lather, rinse, repeat.

    And if it doesn't need Intellipark disabled no harm will be done to the drive (but remember, it tries to do all connected drives at the same time, so make sure the 2TB is the only one connected for that step.
     
  6. sean584995

    sean584995 New Member

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    Thanks Unitron for your guidance. The cloning seems successful. Will put in the new disk in my tivo when I get home tonight. My fingers crossed...
     
  7. DM3MD157

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    Update: So far the Seagate Barracuda drive seems to be working fine. I don't see any issues in playback or recording. Right now the MBT is 35 degrees (Normal).

    So should I be still worried about using this drive despite it being 7200 RPM?
     
  8. jmbach

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    As long as everything is functioning and temperature is fine you should be okay. For the most part I do not believe that the TiVo stresses the drives enough to cause problems. The AV drives are designed to handle 20 or more simultaneous video streams. We use 3 or 5 at most.

    Jim

    Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
     
  9. ggieseke

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    I will buy you a WD20EURS and have it shipped to your door if you agree to send me the ST32000641AS in return. Daddy's RAID needs more drives...

    Seriously, I wouldn't sweat it at all if the temps are good. I have run "AV" drives and "desktop" drives in my TiVos for years and never noticed any difference.
     
  10. sean584995

    sean584995 New Member

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    ya h o o oo oo. I've successfully upgraded my TIVO to 2 TB drive.
    UNITRON, Thanks so much for your prompt responses without which I would not have ordered the drive from newegg. Carefully wrapped up my original drive and shelved it. Thanks again...
     
  11. unitron

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    Enjoy!
     
  12. Davelnlr_

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    Ive been running the Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm drive in my Premier for a year, no issues at all.
     
  13. MrQblets

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    Dear Lord 'unitron': :D I promise you I have genuinly already scanned as well as searched through the current 64 pages of this thread (and many, many other threads for that matter) to try and find this answer prior to this post, so please forgive me if it's already been asked and/or answered. But here's the situation:

    >Currently own:
    -TiVo HD TCD652160 that I've upgraded to 1Tb (int only)
    -TiVo HDXL TCD658000 with a 1Tb DVR Expander hanging off it for a total 2Tb/300HD hours capacity. This has been my primary unit and the capacity has been perfect over the past couple a years

    >I have a TiVo Premiere TCD746320 and WD20EURS both being delivered either today (hopefully) or Wednesday

    >My intention is for the new Premiere to completely takeover the duties of my existing HDXL TCD658000 listed above which currently has 1Tb Int + 1Tb Ext
    (The HDXL will then be brought up here to the Mancave to takeover for the HD/1Tb unit which I'll then probably just offload on eBay or something)

    Ok, so here's the question/concern: :confused:
    Q: Will I be able to copy the combo 'Married' pair of 1TbInt+1TbExt drives from the TCD658000 to just the single WE20EURS which is to be my new, upgraded drive for the new Premiere TCD746320???

    PLEASE SAY "YES" .... PLEASE SAY THE 'JMFS' (or something else) WILL RECOGNIZE THE 'MARRIED' PAIR OF DRIVES ..... :eek::up::D
     
  14. lpwcomp

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    The only way to copy the recordings is via a transfer, either direct TiVo-to-TiVo or TiVo-PC-TiVo. If the recordings are copy protected, you are SOL. There is absolutely no way to do it the way you want to do it.

    You'll need JMFS to copy, expand and supersize the 320GB to the 2TB drive but that is it.

    There is not, never has been, and likely never will be a way to do what you want to do.
     
  15. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Royalty or nobility I ain't.

    Each model of the TiVo has it's own version of the software, so you can't control an S4 with S3 drives or the stuff on them.

    In order to get shows from either S3 to the new Premiere, which is an S4, you need to copy them, via your home network that the TiVos already use to download guide data, to a computer (to a partition formatted with a file system that handles files larger than 4GB) via TiVo Desktop or one of the other methods you'll find discussed here:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=35


    or you can copy them straight from the S3 to the S4 over your home network, but you can't hook S3 drives and the S4 drive (or drive to be) up to a PC and copy off shows that way, and hooking up the S4 drive to a PC and booting into anything other than the jmfs cd is not recommended.

    Also, if you use a GigaByte brand motherboard, there are certain precautions which need to be taken.
     
  16. DM3MD157

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    I think I have given up on my SD-H400 TiVo, it is a series 2, can I transfer recordings to my Premiere via my home network?
     
  17. MrQblets

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    Tks fur the quick replies gents! Of course not the answers that I wanted, but sometimes the truth is not kind. :rolleyes:

    From the OS standpoint; That was going to be phase two of my inquiry because I remember that (back in the day using MFSLive and/or WinMFS) I was not able to move the drive from my HD160 directly into the HDXL once I had added that one to the family. My hope was that with the since introduction of a new tool (JMFS) perhaps that had also been resolved and the move from a S3 to S4 would be kinda turn-key if ya know what I mean. C'est la vie ...

    Well, God bless gigabit networks, eh? Looks as though mines gonna be breathin' pretty hard for the next good while.

    Incidentally ... A happy New Years to y'allz!!! Be Safe! :cool:
     
  18. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Unfotunately, the satellite TiVos don't network the way the standalones do.

    EDIT: Ooops!, I got confused, that's a Toshiba DVD machine, and according to tivopedia it does do networking, so you'll need something that plugs into one of it's USB ports and does ethernet, either wired or wireless.
     
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    lpwcomp Active Member

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    John's...
    You assign TiVo names at tivo.com. Log into your account, select My Tivo->My Account->Change device preferences. This is also where you enable video sharing.
     

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