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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Aug 8, 2012 #1681 of 2843
    unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Any TiVo prior to the Premieres could only have a drive as small as the smallest drive used in that model.

    For example, you could take the 80GB drive out of a TCD540080 and use an image from a TCD540040 and put it on a 40GB drive and put it in that TiVo and it would work.

    The Premiere, however, and the rest of the S4s, have a slightly different file system and the software that can make truncated images from S1, S2, and S3 drives can't do so, so the only thing you can do is do a byte for byte copy using something like

    dd

    or

    dd_rescue

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    ddrescue

    either onto a drive of the same size or do the copy onto a larger drive and use comer's jmfs cd to expand by adding a single MFS partition.

    So, the short answer is, if your Premiere came with a 320GB drive, it has to have one at least that big.
     
  2. Aug 8, 2012 #1682 of 2843
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    Don't even think of using a SSD in a TiVo as it is writing all the time so a SSD will have a short life and the TiVo software does not have the TRIM software that Windows 7 has, the fan may be making the noise your hearing, try stopping the fan for a few seconds (by putting a paper clip into the fan blades) and see if the noise goes down, the fan can be replaced by a good quality quiet fan for not much $$
     
  3. Aug 8, 2012 #1683 of 2843
    unitron

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    Just to be on the safe side

    DO NOT USE A PAPER CLIP OR SOMETHING ELSE MADE OF METAL

    to momentarily stop the fan.

    A Q-Tip, the non-bristle end of a skinny wooden handled paintbrush, take a plastic fork and break off all of the tines except one, etc.

    The chances of something conductive causing a problem are low, but why risk it when safer ways to do it are available?
     
  4. scole250

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    I want to upgrade a stock 75hr Premiere and put a 2TB drive in it. Are the instructions in the first post of this thread accurate or not? If not, is it just a 2 step process, go from stock drive to 1TB using the instructions from 1st post? Then upgrade 1TB to 2TB, using the same instructions in 1st post?
     
  5. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    I'm not sure if the post you quote is from this thread or another, but my 1TB "middleman" on the way to 2TB approach is for Series 3 HD TiVos, the TCD652160, and maybe someday for the original S3.

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!It is not for the Premiere or any other Series 4 TiVo.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    The S4s have something different about the software, and WinMFS will only screw them up.

    As far as I know, the only way to go to a bigger drive in a Premiere is to use comer's jmfs cd v1.04 to copy the original drive to the bigger one and then add a single MFS partition to use the rest of the space.

    WinMFS and the MFS Live cd can only add space by adding MFS pairs, and that won't work in this case.

    If you want to do it yourself, jmfs is the only way I know of for a Premiere.
     
  6. scole250

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    The post I read was #1650 on page 55. I did see a reference to an S3 in your post, previous to that one, but since this is the Premiere upgrade thread, I thought it might be relevant to S4 also. 57 pages of posts is a lot to scan and make sure you're reading/skipping the relevant posts.

    So just follow instructions for using comer's jmfs in the first post?
     
  7. unitron

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    You missed the part where someone who I guess didn't know any better posted here in the Premiere thread about their Australian versions of the S3 HD, which apparently use a 320GB drive instead of a 160.

    We should have been nastier and forced them to meet us over on the S3 thread.

    Yeah, the instructions in the first post should work fine, just don't do it on a GigaByte brand motherboard without coming back and consulting me first, and be absolutely certain to know which drive is which so that you don't copy the first 320GB of an empty drive to your original TiVo drive.


    You should have the original drive set up the way you want it, right zip code, right cable lineup, cable cards paired, season passes, favorites, thumb ratings, fixed IP address whether wired or wireless, etc.

    Then after using jmfs to copy that drive to a bigger one and add another partiton, put the original away somewhere safe.

    You may need it as a troubleshooting tool someday.
     
  8. scole250

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    I upgraded to a 2TB using a WD20EARX. Could not get the WD Diagnostics version 5.04f from boot CD to recognize the drive. It said it saw a WD drive but the drive was too old to work with this version of software. I did run wdidle3 and disabled the timer, but I've been reading other forums where folks suggest setting the timer to 300 seconds. Not sure if that's a preferred setting for non-Tivo use. Should the timer be disabled or set to higher value like 5 minutes?

    jmfs copy/expand/supersize process worked fine, Tivo running fine. 1 down 2 to go.

    TWC's whole house DVRs getting kicked to the curb very soon.
     
  9. unitron

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    Greetings from a bit to your southeast.

    Too bad TWC itself can't be kicked to the curb, or actually kicked from the curb, where it has a monopoly on running cable.

    If wdidle3 will let you disable Intellipark, great, if not, setting the time period ridiculously long, like 60 seconds times 5, will accomplish the same thing where a TiVo is concerned.
     
  10. Finalrinse

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    I disconnected my Windows drives in my PC. I hooked up my TiVo drive and my new drive, both SATA. The JMSF software would not recognize both my drives at the same time, even though they both showed up in the BIOS and individually they are recognized. I then decided to swap the order of the SATA ports and finally I found the right combination and all went smooth. Is there a specific SATA port order that the software needs to see?
     
  11. billbillw

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    Great deal at newegg on the latest 2TB AV-GP right now. Its only $85 with free shipping right now (use a coupon code that is listed). That's the lowest price I've seen on that model.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136783

    Price is good through 8/25.

    My Premiere will finally be getting an upgrade.
     
  12. unitron

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    Already Out Of Stock :confused::(:mad:
     
  13. billbillw

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    Not surprised. They dropped the price $16 and gave free shipping (vs $7 before). Hopefully this is a sign that HD supply (and prices) have recovered from the massive shortages that were brought on by flooding in Thailand last year.
     
  14. Finalrinse

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    I had the exact same problem with a WD20EURS. So, I downloaded the DOS version 5.19 for floppy drive and that worked! Go figure?
     
  15. PapioNE

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    Hi. Just joined and looking for information on upgrading my tivo premiere series4. Bought a WD10EARX and used jmfs to clone it, ran WDidle3 and installed in my tivo and it was just stuck on Welcome Starting Up screen. Powered on/off multiple times but nothing worked. Did you do anything different with your WD20EARX to get it to work? Thanks for any info.
     
  16. ThreeSoFar

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    Double check all your cables.
     
  17. scole250

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    Not sure that it would make a difference, but I ran wdidle3 first, before running jmfs. I did forget to connect the cable though and had to open it back up. Ditto on double check it.
     
  18. clark_kent

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    From reading a lot of pages (but not all) I see some same problems, but I couldn't find any answers... after burning 5 coasters, I thought I'd ask for help:

    I have an early 2010 MacBook Pro; running OSX 10.6.8; used Disk Utility to Convert the .iso to .dmg; and I'm using a dual disk SATA USB doc from:

    http://Thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?S=1268&ID=1895#Tab4

    I finally have a disk that boots, BUT getting 2 error messages:

    1. No controller found

    2. Fatal error occurred - Java MFS not found

    Any help is greatly appreciated!

    Thank you.
     
  19. dwit

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    You cannot use a dual dock enclouse with dual drives to perform the process. You can only use the dual dock in a single drive configuration for the process. Only one drive per dock.
     
  20. clark_kent

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    Thanks for the info dwit. I wondered about that. I had also tried two OWC Mercury USB enclosures with the TiVo disk in one the the target disk in the other but I got the same two errors (no controller found and no JavaMFS found). I don't know if the OWC is problem or not. Would an incompatible controller cause the JavaMFS not to be found?
     

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