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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. rhoelzer

    rhoelzer New Member

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    Yes it's a Premiere.

    No external drive.

    Using bootable flash, CD doesn't seem to boot right, adds to thought that the motherboard/drive controller isn't supported.

    See my last post about fdisk not showing the drives.

    And the drive is still good in the Premiere.



     
  2. copwriter

    copwriter New Member

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    I'm having a similar problem. I have a brand new Premiere that has the cable card installed and programmed, and the box itself is activated with TiVo.
    1. I downloaded, burned to a CD, and ran the jmfs v.1.04 files by booting to the CD.
    2. The TiVo drive and a brand-new, out-0f-the-box WD 20EURS drive are in side-by-side slots in a Kingwin dual SATA drive dock, connected to the computer by USB.
    3. When the guide script loads, it reports no TiVo drives found. I tried disconnecting and reconnecting the dock several times and rebooting. Same result.
    4. fdisk shows the internal HD in the computer and both the TiVO and the WD20EURS drives (as /rev/sdb and /rev/sdc, respectively), with the appropriate drive capacities, so the computer is seeing the two drives.
    5. When I couldn't get the guide script to recognize the TiVo drive, I tried using the ddrescue command to copy the TiVo drive to the WD20EURS. The command took several hours and completed with 300 GB showing as transferred.
    6. I didn't know how to run the EXPAND command from the command line (Linux noob), so that didn't happen.
    7. Putting the WD20EURS in the Premiere causes it to flash lights and loop. I don't think there's anything on the drive the TiVo can read.
    8. Replacing the original TiVo drive in the Premiere causes the Premiere to boot normally, with everything there that was there before.
    I'm basically back at Square One. Since the computer and the Linux setup can see the drives, why can't jmfs see that one of them is a TiVo drive? If anyone has any suggestions, please be explicit with regard to Linux commands, as I am close to flying blind here.
     
  3. unitron

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    "[*]The TiVo drive and a brand-new, out-0f-the-box WD 20EURS drive are in side-by-side slots in a Kingwin dual SATA drive dock, connected to the computer by USB."

    There's your problem. jmfs has to see the drives connected directly to SATA ports.

    You could try booting with the MFS Live cd v1.4 (get zip of .iso image at mfslive.org) and "Xerox"-ing the original drive to the 2TB by

    dd_rescue -v /dev/sd"x" /dev/sd"y"

    where "x" is the drive letter assigned to the original drive and "y" is the letter assigned to the 2TB.

    Do not get them reversed or you will overwrite the original drive with the 2TB's zero-y emptiness.

    Since the data has to travel out the USB of the dock into the computer and be turned around and sent back the way it came, expect it to take a while. Quite a while.

    After that finishes, type in

    poweroff

    without doing any looking at either drive with any of the other utilities on the MFS Live cd v1.4


    Then disconnect the original drive and connect the 2TB directly to a SATA controller, boot with jmfs, and tell it to expand.

    That might work.

    If you have any other hard drives attached to that motherboard, like say the one with Windows on it, or any other data you value, better to disconnect them while all of this is going on.
     
  4. lpwcomp

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    There's your problem. While it should work if the drives are in separate docks, even if connected by USB, JMFS will not work with a dual dock. Actually, I'm not sure that any of the TiVo upgrade tools will work with a dual dock.
     
  5. Merle Corey

    Merle Corey New Member

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    Is your PC in AHCI mode? It's a BIOS setting for how to handle the disks, and AHCI is standard on newer systems as it delivers better performance.

    If that's the case, you'll need to turn off AHCI to get this done. The other option should be "IDE" or "ATA" or possibly even "Legacy" or similar.
     
  6. copwriter

    copwriter New Member

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    You nailed it. I took the cover off a PC, disconnected the SATA cables to the internal HDs and re-attached them to the new and old TiVo drives, and re-ran JMFS. Worked the first time, in the computer and in the TiVo. Many thanks for your help. Comer, appreciation fee for your work is enroute.
     
  7. mosborne

    mosborne New Member

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    Hi:
    Is there a new link to download the image? It appears the link is broke to mediafire. If it is still working, please let me know and I'll work the problem on my end.
    Thanks
     
  8. ThreeSoFar

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  10. ShinySteelRobot

    ShinySteelRobot New Member

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    Earlier this year I upgraded with a 2TB EARX drive, but it started becoming glitchy (pixelization, spontaneous reboots, etc). The SMART test kickstart reported a failing drive.

    After I copied everything over to a EURS, it's been smooth sailing. I definitely recommend the EURS over the EARX if at all possible. The price premium over the EARX is only about 10% online.
     
  11. lessd

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    I don't think one bad drive makes a case that the EARX are NG, I have been using them for a few years now and never had a problem, I am sure others have also.
     
  12. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    I thought the EARX has only been available for a little over 1 year.
     
  13. mosborne

    mosborne New Member

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    Thanks, it is downloading now.
     
  14. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    Yes, your correct as i upgraded some of my TiVos I got at the end of 2010 sometime in early 2011, so my use of years was incorrect.
     
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  16. JoeTaxpayer

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    I used this to upgrade a Premiere to 1.5TB and it's been great.

    I have a 2TB Premiere Elite (or whatever they call it) on order. Will this SW work on the Elite as well?
    Given that the drive is the weak link in my life, I was thinking to just back up the fresh drive and lock it away. Then, when the day of failure occurs, I can be up again in minutes, stress free.
     
  17. b13

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    :confused:

    So the last TIVO upgrade I did was from a Stock 320GB Western Digital to a 1TB Western Digital.

    I did this roughly 3+ years ago...yeah the good old days. Let's put it this way I did it before this tool was out and everything was command line :) No "fast gui" or Multiple Choice Interface.

    Anyways, 1st let me give props to the coder/script writer. The interface is fast easy and user friendly

    ****************************************************
    Ok now on to my problem. I copied the data from my WD 1TB to my new 2TB Drive.After 6-10 hours of data copying it asked me "do you want to expand" I selected yes.

    Once the Tivo booted it complained about not having an expanded drive.... ?

    To my suprise the COPY worked/the tivo works/all my shows copied. However, the remaining other terrabyte is not being used:(

    My Tivo shows roughly 150HD Hours and I am still @ 89% Full (which is what I was on with the 1TB Drive)


    Did I miss a step?
     
  18. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    As far as I know the only thing you can do with an Elite drive is "Xerox" it byte by byte to another drive with the

    dd

    utility or one of the newer utilities that do the same thing a little less cryptically, like

    dd_rescue

    which, in addition to dd, is on the very handy to have MFS Live cd (free image available at mfslive.org), or with what I think jmfs uses,

    ddrescue

    Booting into Windows and trying to take a look at the drive with WinMFS is apparently risky for S4 models, and leaves you with a TiVo that won't boot.

    As far as I know, 2TB is the upper limit per drive for not just the later S3 models but the S4 platform as well, so you'll have to get another 2TB, and not a 2.5 or 3

    And then there's the question of which implementation of "advanced format" by which drive maker might be used on the drive you buy and whether the TiVo can get along with it.

    So "dd" the Elite drive to the new drive and try the new drive in the Elite and if it works leave it there and put the original drive in a very safe place for future reference after clearly labeling it and putting a big "Do not use for anything else" on it.

    Any of the commercial, proprietary, closed source copying utilites, like Ghost, are possibly designed without TiVo drive structure strictly in mind, and I wouldn't think one could be sure they wouldn't screw something up.
     
  19. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    You upgraded a Premiere drive?

    Or an S3 HD?

    The Premiere's stock drive is a 320, but MFS Live and WinMFS do not work on it.

    You can use either on an S3 HD (or HD XL), but the stock drive on the HD is only 160GB


    Anyway, what happened is somehow you didn't completely fill that 1TB drive, and there's a little space at the end which shows up in the partition map as an Apple Free partition. (You can learn a lot more about this in the S3 jmfs thread).

    jmfs works by adding a single 16th partition (that's the TiVo per drive limit, 16 partitons) instead of a pair the way MFS Live and WinMFS do.

    If it sees that Apple Free partition it'll copy it along with the rest of the drive to a larger drive, and then expand by adding that single partition, but because of the Apple Free at 16, the new jmfs added partition is partition 17, and since the TiVo limit is 16 per drive, the TiVo thinks #17 is on a separate drive, and the only separate drive it knows about is an external.
     
  20. b13

    b13 New Member

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    Ok, so where do I go from here? Do I need to recopy the image?

    Can i repair the current drive in my tivo with a few linux commands to get that partion showing in the tivo GUI?

    I have a Series 4 TIVO aka Tivo Premiere



     

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