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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. L David Matheny

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    Yes. If Windows is doing something to "make it bootable" then it's probably not burning the .ISO image. You want the image burned exactly as-is. That's why it was saved as an .ISO image. If it's supposed to be bootable, that functionality is already a part of the saved image. And (to give a specific example) if a big part of the content on the CD you burned is a file ending in .ISO, then it wasn't burned as an image.
     
  2. ncfoster

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    Is there a prevailing wisdom as to the best drive(s) for use in upgrading a Premiere these days? I believe that I read somewhere a while back that things didn't always work quite as intended when using a 2TB drive, etc. So, is 1TB the way to go, or has this been resolved, and/or maybe it was overblown? Thanks.
     
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  4. ncfoster

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    Thank you so much for the concise and useful response. Finger is on the trigger. :)
     
  5. May 1, 2012 #1565 of 2843
    robo456

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    I picked up the EURS and was curious if you guys know if you still have to run the wdidle3 utility to disable the intellipark still?

    Thanks for any info!

    --rob
     
  6. May 1, 2012 #1566 of 2843
    CoxInPHX

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    No, I did not. I do not think it is required.
     
  7. May 1, 2012 #1567 of 2843
    unitron

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    Just download the image and burn the cd and boot with it and run wdidle3. If it doesn't need it it won't let it do anything, no harm done.
     
  8. May 2, 2012 #1568 of 2843
    robo456

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    Thanks much!

    --rob
     
  9. May 4, 2012 #1569 of 2843
    ncfoster

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    My WD20EURS came today. I am surprised that I do not see more talk elsewhere about preparing drives. Is that not something that people bother with anymore? I was under the impression that large modern drives were actually more prone to bad sectors, etc. which one might want to map out before installing a new drive. I also wondered whether one needed to do anything differently with these AV-specific drives than a normal one, since I understand that they deliberately do less error-correction. Anyone have any thoughts?
     
  10. May 4, 2012 #1570 of 2843
    unitron

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    Download the image for the bootable cd with the WD diagnostic software on it and burn yourself a copy (burn as image). Search wd20eurs on the wd web site, look to left of results page for link or button that says "downloads" to get to page with images.






    Run the long test on the drive.


    Go here:

    http://www.ngohq.com/news/19805-critical-design-flaw-found-in-wd-caviar-green-hdds.html

    find link for WDIDLE3 ISO image

    download and burn as image and use it to disable Intellipark.


    If that's a 4K drive, I don't know if you have to do anything special or not.
     
  11. May 5, 2012 #1571 of 2843
    ncfoster

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    Thanks to everyone. I have the new drive up and running. I did neglect to look into the AAM setting, but I have seen at least some suggestion that the A/V drives, such as the WD20EURS that I used, do not need to be tuned, as they are already setup ideally for this purpose.

    I don't recall what the old drive sounded like, but I am the sort to limit noise whenever possible, even if the difference is minimal. Should I leave well-enough alone, or is there benefit to be gained even on this drive?

    Thank you all again.
     
  12. May 5, 2012 #1572 of 2843
    unitron

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    Just so you know that AAM and Intellipark/wdidle3 are two different, unrelated things.
     
  13. May 5, 2012 #1573 of 2843
    ncfoster

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    Yes, I am aware of that. I ran the Intellipark tool. I found that the drive already had it off, as expected. I am wondering about the AAM issue.
     
  14. May 5, 2012 #1574 of 2843
    unitron

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    Okay, some people get them confused.

    I never paid any attention to the noise thing as long as the drive sounded "normal", there's usually something else running that would drown it out, so fear I'm no help on the finer points of fine tuning that.
     
  15. May 5, 2012 #1575 of 2843
    ncfoster

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    One note I'd like to add for folks, especially those who watched the video mentioned in the thread, is that there isn't a lot of space to unscrew the drive rails from the case, at least the two further from the edge of the case. The video depicts using a small power drill with a torx bit. While my drill is admittedly bigger, I found it awkward to unscrew the two interior screws, given the relatively short length of the torx bit and the girth of the drill. So, if you have the opportunity to get a longer torx bit, I'd recommend it.

    Side question: Am I the only one who had one of the metal standoffs come out of the motherboard when performing this operation? I found the design and construction largely very good, but I was surprised at this.
     
  16. May 5, 2012 #1576 of 2843
    lessd

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    Yes the standoffs can come off, so one must not use a power driver to remove the drive or replace the drive unless you driver has a low torque setting.
     
  17. May 5, 2012 #1577 of 2843
    ncfoster

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    It does have a variable torque. I think it was below half, but probably not low enough. Thanks...for future reference. :)
     
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    CoxInPHX

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    Thanks to the OP from takiing the time to put this together.

    A suggestion, and highly recommended, is to move the files off MediaFire and put the files on a virus free virtual drive from MS, Google, PogoPlug, Apple, Dropbox, etc. Medifire is a mine field of dangerous links and popups, such as the fake virus scans that install malware. Having TiVo users go there is just asking them to download files from unsafe location. Given that there are safe virtual drives with free space, its recommended to use those instead of mediafire.

    Thanks
     
  20. nrnoble

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    What is not clear to me is the difference between "copying and "expanding".

    If I am going from a stock Tivo HDD to a 2TB drive. Do I need to expand the HDD after copy?

    Thanks
     

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