That second one looks like it ought to work, but.... The discussion of Premiere drives and how to "embiggen" them that I thought I read over at "the site which must not be named" was actually over on the forums at mfslive.org http://mfslive.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=1500 where you can see comer picking spike's brain as he works out what eventually becomes jmfs Unfortunately a lot of it is still over my head. I thought that it was exceeding the 16 partitions per drive rule that made the TiVo think that the added partition was a faulty external, but apparently there's more voodoo involved than that. The part where he reports sucess, unfortunately, reminds me of the old cartoon of the professor with a blackboard filled with a long chain of math formulas and equations, and right in the middle there's a line that says "and then a miracle happens". Unless we can get comer to weigh in on how jmfs gets away with adding a partition successfully without the TiVo thinking it's an external, I don't know how we're going to figure out how to do it a second time on the same drive. Are there shows on the 500 that you can't copy off with TiVo Desktop?