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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. ThreeSoFar

    ThreeSoFar FourNow...WaitFive

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    Have to start simple here....do you have the drive properly connected, both data AND power?

    PS: What famous guy are you? (Feel free to just PM me the answer once you get a few posts...I won't tell anyone, I promise.)
     
  2. Feb 4, 2012 #1442 of 2843
    Gregor

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    Lost the 1 TB external Tivo drive on my Premiere, :mad: so I'm upgrading the internal drive to 2 TB to get the storage back.

    Strange thing is the Live CD does not work on my Mac Mini but works fine on my MacBook Pro.
     
  3. Feb 4, 2012 #1443 of 2843
    ShinySteelRobot

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    Is it a PowerPC based G5 Mac Mini? The boot disc will only work on Intel.
     
  4. Feb 5, 2012 #1444 of 2843
    Gregor

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    No, Intel based Mini. I'll post the error message when I get done with the CD - it's running the upgrade in my MBP.

    It looks it will take about 36 hours to complete the copy - about 30% done after running for 10 hours.
     
  5. Feb 5, 2012 #1445 of 2843
    aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I didnt realize the EARX drives were good for the TiVos I recently sold five new ones on eBay for $115 to $119. I would have tried to sell them here otherwise and saved the 9% fee. I sold around fifty hard drives in the span of a week getting rid of all my old S3 and TiVoHD stock hard drives as well as other new and old drives I had sitting around while the prices are still relatively high.
     
  6. Feb 5, 2012 #1446 of 2843
    Gregor

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    OK here's what's on screen:

    picture of 2 penguins
    pci 0000:00:03.4: BAR 0: can't allocate resource
    i804Z.c: No controller found
    Running Linux Live scripts <http://www.linux-live.org> [*** Fatal error occurred - Java MFS not found.
    You are maybe using an unsuppported boot device(eg. SCSI or old PCMCIA).
    Workaround: Copy the directory JavaMFS from your boot device to an IDE/SATA
    disk, eg. /mnt/hda1/JavaMFS or c:\JavaMFS. Then try to boot again.
     
  7. Feb 5, 2012 #1447 of 2843
    unitron

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    I think you get one penguin if you've got a single core CPU and 2 if a dual core, although I might be confusing it with the Parted Magic Live cd.
     
  8. Feb 5, 2012 #1448 of 2843
    Gregor

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    Could be dual core, it's a 2010 vintage Mac Mini.

    I tried copying the JavaMFS directory to the root of the HD as it suggested and it still throws the error.

    I'll have to check, but I believe there's a java development environment installed on the MBP, that may be the difference.
     
  9. Feb 6, 2012 #1449 of 2843
    Phasers

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    I just purchased one of these on eBay. Emailed the seller, they said they use a WD20EARX with intellipark disabled and settings tuned for quiet operations.

    Figured at $169.90 shipped for one preconfigured/preimaged vs $129.99 at amazon/newegg for a new WD20EARX, it was worth the $40 not to deal with it myself (new Premiere, no recordings to transfer).

    Will update on how it is working when I recieve it later this week.
     
  10. Feb 9, 2012 #1450 of 2843
    JulienPDX77

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    I upgraded my own drive using this process a while ago; but the drive i moved to was WD10EADS; I disabled intellipark but did not use wdiddle to "quiet" it...if it is noisy; i dont even notice
     
  11. Feb 9, 2012 #1451 of 2843
    unitron

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    Looks like DVR_Dude has some more (besides weaknees) competition.
     
  12. Feb 9, 2012 #1452 of 2843
    Phasers

    Phasers New Member

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    Yeah, guess so.

    Got drive today in mail, installed straight out of box, and Premiere is showing 317 hrs of HD capacity. Was indeed the EARX green drive, as promised.

    Only thing is (and maybe it is my imagination), it seems to boot up slower than the factory drive in premiere and my premiere XL. Also, it is much quiter (again, maybe my imagination) than the factory drive.

    I'm gonna wait and see if it speeds up any after the 20.2 update. I am currently on 14.4. I'll let it sit overnight to try and update, as I forced the connection 3 times and restarted it once already, and it is still on 14.4.
     
  13. Phasers

    Phasers New Member

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    20.2 installed overnight. Surprisingly I have 318 hrs (+1 hr) of HD capacity now :confused:

    Haven't rebooted the box, but I am very happy with the upgrade. I have been transferring a bunch of shows from my full premiere XL, and it has been taking about ~15 min for each hr of recorded show I have been transferring (~6GB/1 hr HD show).

    If you guys feel the $40 is worth not having to mess with the upgrade yourself on a new TiVo, then I highly recommend you go my route.
     
  14. jwcatlanta

    jwcatlanta New Member

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    I have a Premiere which was upgraded from 320GB to 2TB WD EARS.
    6 months ago I backed down to 500Gb for troubleshooting reasons. That upgrade was done from the 320 drive and the few programs were moved off and then back on after the downgrade. Now the drive is 67% full and having problems with new recording requests because of "not enough room". All rebooting problems seem to be gone.

    I want to upgrade to the 2TB again and tried using JMFS from the 500GB to the 2TB. The copy and expand go fine but when the drive is put back in the unit it boots up to the message that the external drive is not attached. Telling it to remove the external results in the drive going back to the 500GB. I found one reference to this problem. He had a 1TB going bad. He solved it by using OS X to rewrite the partition tables (something about the original upgrade adding the 17th partition). I do not want to attempt such a thing.

    I have the original 320Gb and know I can upgrade from it to the 2TB by transferring all the programs off and then back after the upgrade to maintain them. A time consuming job.

    Is there any way to upgrade from the already upgraded drive and copy over the programs like the first upgrade does? Am I missing something or are we stuck with only one upgrade per Premiere while maintaining the already recorded programs? Thanks for any help. Jerry
     
  15. unitron

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    Upgrading a TiVo drive usually means copying the first 13 partitions (including the 2 MFS pairs, partitions 10 and 11, and 12 and 13) to the larger drive and then expanding by adding another MFS pair. If you do this with say the original 320 and a 500, and the software that does it leaves a little bit of unused space at the end of the drive after adding the 3rd MFS pair, that space gets interpreted by the Apple Partition Map, and stuff that can read APMs, as an Apple Free partition. That's right, unpartitioned space is a partition. Now you know why Apple's slogan is "think different":rolleyes:

    If you then go to use, say, comer's jmfs to upgrade that 500 to a 2TB, it'll first copy everything on the 500, but it's not smart enough to realise that an Apple Free partition is not a partition that needs to be preserved, but should be considered the beginning of the space into which to expand, so you wind up with the Apple Free partition on the 2TB as the 16th partition (the MFS pair that were added back on the 500 were the 14th and 15th), so when jmfs adds the single MFS media partition which it is designed to add, that partition becomes the 17th partition.

    TiVos seem to have a 16 partition per drive limit, so when you boot up the 2TB in the TiVo, it thinks the 17th partition is a screwed up external drive, and wants to divorce it, and when that's done, you're back to a 500GB image on the 2TB drive.

    If you originally upgraded from the 320 straight to the 2TB, which program or programs did you use?

    When you went from the 320 to the 500, which program or programs did you use?

    There may be a sneaky way out of this that involves a larger swap partition size and using dd_rescue to overwrite partitions with partitions, but I've got to find out more about the difference between the S4 partition layout and the S2-S3 layout first, and I've got to try an experiment with jmfs.
     
  16. jwcatlanta

    jwcatlanta New Member

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    I used JMFS Rev 104 in each case. It works great. I saw references to the 17th sector problem but no fixes except re-writing the partition table using OS X. Hasn't there been more people with the problem?
     
  17. arrarrgee

    arrarrgee New Member

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    Could someone tell me where i can find an image for Tivo Premiere pls..
     
  18. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    At this time the only image for a Premiere drive is another Premiere drive.

    Exactly what's wrong with your Premiere?
     
  19. arrarrgee

    arrarrgee New Member

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    Thx for the reply..My Premiere went in to a relentless reboot mode...Took a freinds premiere drive and copied on to mine...works fine now...but thought of keeping an image just as a backup.
     
  20. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    You could get a second 320GB drive and dd, or ddrescue, or dd_rescue onto that, but you could probably get a 1TB for not much more and use jmfs to copy and expand onto the rest of it, and put the 320 on the shelf for safekeeping.
     

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