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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. lillevig

    lillevig Cold in East Iowa

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    Found this site when I was hunting around. Looks like he provides not only the utility but the Linux source code as well. Unfortunately, I'm not a Linux guy. Anyone willing to incorporate this into JMFS?

    http://idle3-tools.sourceforge.net/
     
  2. Stuxnet

    Stuxnet Alien Infidel

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    Hiren's BootCD has WDIDLE3 built-in. Have you tried that?
     
  3. lillevig

    lillevig Cold in East Iowa

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    No I haven't, but I'm assuming that it still boots into DOS and would not recognize a USB to IDE/SATA cable. Technically, what I need is to have a version of WDIDLE that I can use with a laptop. Even when I use my desktop I never crack open the PC case. I always use a USB to IDE/SATA cable and have successfully done so with the laptop as well. To be honest, I haven't used JMFS yet but have used WINMFS and MFSTools to image S1, S2, and S3HD drives. If I ever use JMFS I will do the copy using two USB cables even though it will take much longer. I'm assuming that it will work that way because I've used them to do a disk-to-disk copy with WINMFS before.
     
  4. Stuxnet

    Stuxnet Alien Infidel

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    There's a chance you might not need WDIDLE3. But you won't know for sure until you install the new drive.

    I had a similar problem with USB/SATA adaptors... JMFS couldn't see my TiVo drive, so I had to open up a desktop and "borrow" the CD/DVD and HDD SATA cables, and run JMFS from a thumb drive.

    BTW... you tag line dates you a bit, lol.
    _______
    if you want to be a bird... :D
     
  5. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Like the lady said about the future, either live it, or live with it!;)
     
  6. lillevig

    lillevig Cold in East Iowa

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    Hey, I'm old, and I don't care who knows about it. Young whippersnappers....
     
  7. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

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    Did you at least learn 3 mew words in Turkish today?
     
  8. lillevig

    lillevig Cold in East Iowa

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    Ben bizim tüm bu otobüsteki Bozos olduğumuzu sanırım.
     
  9. weinberk

    weinberk Confirmed Doofis

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    Hmm, I'm getting the JavaMFS Data not found error too. I've burned the iso to cd, also put it on a bootable USB drive. I've tried in 2 different PC's too. I even tried using the "previous" version, no luck there, same error.



    I'm really just trying to copy an existing 750gb drive from my Premier to another. I'm not planning on expanding or anything like that.

    I've searched everywhere, but all I've found is reference to this thread. Any ideas? Thanks.
     
  10. roberte94066

    roberte94066 New Member

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    bath, towel, passport. May I see your passport, please?
     
  11. BH9244

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    Greetings All,
    In process of attempting to upgrade my stock Premier using a WD10EVDS. Running Ult Boot CD w/WDIDLE3 v1.05 my WD10EVDS is in a external dock directly connected to a motherboard SATA port.

    When I run WDIDLE it reports the three Seagate system drives as non WD drives then lists the WD drive in the dock as follows

    Model: WDC WD10EVDS-63U8B0
    Serial: WD- Blah , blah blah

    VSC Enable CMD Error 51 04 00 01 44 57 A0

    Any idea what this means/ what I might try next ?

    Thanks
     
  12. bobade

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    My 5 month old WD20EARS has started making a lot of noise. While it still works, I'd like to replace it, as it is filled with unwatched shows. Unfortunately, I need to have the TV working by Thanksgiving to entertain our 30 guests, so my choices of locally available 2TB drives is very limited. Here are the choices:

    WD20000LSRTL (Caviar Black) - $220
    WDBAAY0020HNC-NRSN (Caviar Green) - $130

    Do you think either of these drives, if properly installed, will work?

    Thanks!
     
  13. richsadams

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    The WDBAAY0020HNC-NRSN is actually a WD20EADS hard drive and will work fine.
     
  14. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Allow me to echo much-missed rich,

    Go for the Green.

    Although it will cost you what the Black would have 2 months ago (ouch!), it'll use less power, generate less heat, and probably run a bit more quietly than the Black.

    Now comes the part where I have to be in less than total agreement with him (and we just got him back, too:( ).


    WDBAAY0020HNC-NRSN is the number on the box.

    The drive inside will be a WD Caviar Green, and it will be 2TB, but the actual model might be a WD20EADS, or another WD20EARS, or a WD20EACS, or maybe something newer like an EARX or something.

    But it should be fine, just run wdidle3 on it to disable intellipark, then the long test from the WD diagnostic software, then hook up it and your current EARS (both should have the same LBA number), boot with the MFS Live cd v1.4 from mfslive.org, and Xerox the old one to the new one with dd_rescue.

    Are you sure it's the drive that's making noise and not the fan?
     
  15. BH9244

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    This may be an newbie question but this is a raw drive to which I have done nothing out of the box, is there any prep I should have done prior to running wdidle3 ?..
     
  16. unitron

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    What it means is that for wdidle3 to work the drive has to be connected directly to a SATA port on the computer's motherboard or to an IDE port via a SATA to IDE adapter, or IDE to SATA adapter, depending on which way you look at it.

    Do it without the dock.

    Of course it could be that intellipark can't be defeated/'have its wait time extended enough to do practically the same thing' on that particular version of that particular model drive.
     
  17. BH9244

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    Thanks Unitron, that was the problem worked without incident after bypassing the dock, I had thought (evidently incorrectly) that since the dock was connected to a esata port it esssentially was the same as connected direct to MB. Thanks for clearing that up, hope the rest goes as well..
     
  18. richsadams

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    I happened to have that retail box number documented as a WD20EADS, but you're right, it might be another/newer model. All the same it should work fine.
     
  19. bobade

    bobade New Member

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    Rich - thanks so much for the advice.

    Unitron - thanks to you, too. You're right. In my box is actually a WD20EARX. Considering the sudden price increase and lack of availability (OfficeMax is limiting drive sales to 1 per customer!), I feel lucky to have found one in town. You made a good point about the noise coming from the fan, but ran the TIVO with the cover off, just to be sure that the fan was not the source.
     
  20. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    I assume you're going to use the jmfs cd. It can probably see that drive over the dock, but it's only looking to write to the drive, wdidle3 is looking to write to the drive's firmware (the little integrated circuits on the bottom of the drive), and apparently any extra electronics in between get in the way somehow.
     

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