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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    John's...
    Since you used WinMFS to do something that the documentation explicitly says it cannot do and never claimed it could do and, surprise, surprise, had a problem, I call it disingenuous.
     
  2. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Don't you have to be able to figure out what it says before you can be misled by it?
     
  3. steffen707

    steffen707 New Member

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    Gotcha, thanks for the warning. I have an S3 HD but when I upgrade to Premiere I'll remember this.
     
  4. Soapm

    Soapm Active Member

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    So close,...
    Correct, hence my honest point about heading warnings...

    I was just giving you an AMEN...
     
  5. Soapm

    Soapm Active Member

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    So close,...
    OUCH!!! Now that's hitting below the belt...
     
  6. cherry99

    cherry99 New Member

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    I use Tivo for OTA only.

    I remember when I started using my brand new Tivo it gave me 14 days of full functionality including Program Guide even though it was unsubscribed. After 14 days the Program Guide was no longer available.

    The question: will I get another 14 days with program guide if I load a virgin Hard Drive image taken from the same unit before it was even turned on?

    Will it behave as brand new or the unit is marked/flagged somewhere in the firmware or on Tivo servers?
     
  7. dwit

    dwit Active Member

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    No. Whenever your Premiere connects to the Tivo servers, before any programming is downloaded, the subscription status is checked against the info the server has on your units TSN(id #). No subscription, no programming download.

    All brand new Tivos get a free trial, 7 day period of (almost)full functionality, including full guide programming. If paid service is not activated by the 7th day, the full functionality is shut off.

    Only one free trial per Tivo, regardless what you do to it. The servers know that your TSN# has used it's free trial period.
     
  8. cherry99

    cherry99 New Member

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    Thanks for clarifying this.
     
  9. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    You one free trial statement is not 100% true, on an older TiVo if you xfer the Lifetime Service off one TiVo to another, the now unactivated TiVo will get another free 7 days, but few people outside of Weeknee know about this as it has little practical use.
     
  10. roberte94066

    roberte94066 New Member

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    On another note, I find it interesting that a Premiere with an expanded drive will still try to install an external drive and will show "no external drive attached" in status reports. I only mention this because my understanding from postings here was that the expanded partitions where viewed as an external section by Tivo.
     
  11. lillevig

    lillevig Hot in West Texas

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    Ok, I'm a seasoned WINMFS user but haven't tried JMFS yet. I do have a new Premiere so guess I need to bite the bullet sometime and give it a try. I usually use USB to SATA adapters instead of cracking open the PC but I've read here that WDIdle3, as a DOS program, won't recognize a USB adapter. My question: Has anyone tried using any of the DOS/USB Driver methods on the web to get around this issue? For instance, check out this website:

    www.bootdisk.com/usb.htm
     
  12. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    John's...
    I hope anyone planning on doing a drive upgrade/replacement has already purchased the new drive. Due to the floods in Thailand, prices have more than doubled recently.
     
  13. ThreeSoFar

    ThreeSoFar FourNow...WaitFive

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    JMFS is trivially easy to use. I'd say ignore the wdidle3 issue at first, proceed with your dupe and give it a shot in your Premiere. Try a soft reboot a few times to see if it fails, if it does then you need to go down the WDIdle3 route, if not you don't. Even if the soft boot fails, you'll have full use of your TiVo if you hard boot until the next update/soft boot.
     
  14. rcliff

    rcliff New Member

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    I've been doing upgrading my tivos since I made some crude custom bracket for my Series 1 Sony and added 2x 120GB drives and ran some cryptic linux tools. That was a pain. When I first saw this thread, I thought JMFS might be a hassle but this was the easiest upgrade yet. Very clear guided setup with confirmations all along the way makes this pretty much idiot proof. Only downside is that it takes a couple of hours vs the truncated backup/restore with Winmfs for Series 3 tivos. Much thanks to Comer and anyone else involved in this project :)
     
  15. Nov 3, 2011 #1335 of 2843
    gardavis

    gardavis New Member

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    The links to the jmfs software at the beginning of this thread do not work. The MediaFire link seems not to find it and the mirror link goes to a web site that no longer exists.

    Someome reported this to me since my tutorial and youtube reference this post. I'd like to update the links to keep them fresh.

    Thanks,
    Gary Davis
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    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS_KZsJ4vaQ[/media] - Part I
    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO0QGhO30rE[/media] - Part II
    http://diyclinic.webguild.com/ProjectTivoUpgrade.aspx - Tutorial
     
  16. Nov 3, 2011 #1336 of 2843
    steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    I just noticed this myself.

    The mediafire link for rev68 still works, but not the mirror, and the mediafire link and the mirror for rev104 both do not work.

    Anybody know anywhere else rev104 is downloadable from?
     
  18. Nov 3, 2011 #1338 of 2843
    Stuxnet

    Stuxnet Alien Infidel

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    Here's jmfs104 (link good for 30 days)
     
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    unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Much grass!

    For those wondering what a .7z file is, go here

    http://www.7-zip.org/

    and get the thing to unzip it with.
     
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