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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. 1idjack

    1idjack New Member

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    I just upgraded my Premiere XL with a Samsung EcoGreen F4 HD204UI 2TB. I chose the Samsung because it has more favorable reviews on Newegg than the WD drives, and the power usage is even lower than WD drives. Copying took just under seven hours hooked to the motherboard of my ancient Dell (I think it has SATA I). While copying, I had the drive vertical, and it was silent. Installed in my Tivo it is horizontal, of course, and now, really loud! I pulled it to reset AAM, which is set to "disabled" as delivered. When set to "quiet" by Samsung's ES Tools, it is very close to the WD drives I have.
    One thing is a little odd: my Tivo shows 301 hours of hd capacity. I don't know how I managed that(I think most people are getting about 317 with 2 Tb).
    Just a note: although Samsung doesn't make a big deal of it, the reviews I read say this is "advanced format" like the new WD drives.
    P.S.: Many thanks to Comer.
     
  2. dwit

    dwit Active Member

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    Did you do the "Supersize" step?

    Or maybe it's(capacity) is related to the "advanced format".
     
  3. ~kyle

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    I never could set AAM with any of the suggested utilities on my WD20EARS. Everything I used said AAM was "not supported". So I went ahead and set the idle to 300 and upgraded my premiere anyway after making a bootable usb flash drive with jmfs Sunday night. Took just a few hours and everything went without a hitch and now I've got 317 hours. :cool:

    Thanks comer, I just sent you a donation...not enough for a hard drive but maybe enough for a few beers. ;)

    ...and thanks to everyone else on here whose suggestions and experience came in handy.

    Cheers!
     
  4. roberte94066

    roberte94066 New Member

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    Ok, time to pick the collective brain again! I just replaced the 320gb drive on my Premiere with a 1.5tb drive. The operation went smoothly and all was well until I tried to add a Mybook AV expander. Tivo sees the expander and goes through the power cycle to add it, but nothing happens. When it fully reboots, it shows a message that it sees the expander and offers options. I used a different esata cable with it, btw. Where do I go from here???:confused:
     
  5. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    The 1TB you're allowed to use from an external drive you already used internally with the 1.5TB.

    You get the original 320GB plus up to 1TB additional grand total and that's it, whether the 1TB is an external drive or part of the internal.
     
  6. roberte94066

    roberte94066 New Member

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    calif
    I'm sorry, but doesn't the machine support up to 2.25gb total??
     
  7. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Perhaps I'm confusing it with the constraints reported for the S3 platform machines.

    You could go back and read this thread and a few others from the beginning and probably find out.
     
  8. ducker

    ducker New Member

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    This is harder to do then you may think - at least in my experience. I'm at about 30 days, and I'm dieing to pull the trigger. Due to the limited capacity I'm watching shows faster then I typically do - often I wait for the weekend to watch a number of the shows, because the weekdays are just too busy.

    But with all these new shows up and coming, combine with children's programming - I'm already up to 60% or so.

    I don't think I'll be able to wait anther 60 days :D
     
  9. ducker

    ducker New Member

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    Duplicate the stock drive, and put the non-stock drive back in. Put away the stock drive and keep that one safe. That's what most people do.

    If you're going to go in there to pull the drive and back it up, I would suggest finding a drive a bit larger (why not!) and then not replace the stock drive in the unit, and instead use your new copy.

    Use the copy, versus the original.
     
  10. roberte94066

    roberte94066 New Member

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    calif
    So I guess my question still stands-can anyone think of a reason why a mybook av expander would fail to mate with a tivo premiere which has a freshly installed 1.5tb drive? The installed drive is working nicely, btw.
     
  11. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

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    Just thrwing these out as possibilities. I don't know for sure but:

    You're trying to exceed the 2.2 TB limit and it can't use just part of the expander? The expander has to be as large as or larger than the internal?
     
  12. dwit

    dwit Active Member

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    The "mating" capability is only functional with a stock Tivo hard drive. So the capability is typically lost if the drive has been upgraded.

    Edited for more accurate info: See link below:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8226583#post8226583
     
  13. lillevig

    lillevig Cold in East Iowa

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    I've heard that upgrading the drive causes you to lose the expander drive function on Series3/3HD boxes but I assumed that was because WINMFS or MFSLive only make truncated images. Is that still the case with JMFS which supposedly clones the drive? Or maybe the expander function would still work if the new drive was the same size as the original but not if it is larger. Anyone have first hand experience in this area?
     
  14. lillevig

    lillevig Cold in East Iowa

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    Yeah, that's what I've done with my other Tivos. I like WINMFS so that is what I've used on the older boxes but I still have the original drives stashed away in case of emergency. Anyone in the market for an original Series 1 Philips 14 GB drive? :rolleyes:
     
  15. dwit

    dwit Active Member

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    Okay, here is what jmfs developer, Comer, says:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8226583#post8226583

    "You can do it with the current set of tools. However, if your total storage will be greater than 2Tb then you will experience a glitch of unknown consequences. So you better off just using 2tb drive."
     
  16. roberte94066

    roberte94066 New Member

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    calif
    And yet Weaknees has a 4tb internal/external system working-this begs the question of the problem being one of formatting only, that is to say, it should be possible to extend the partition out to its' 2.2tb limit via partitions on the external drive. True, it would not use all the external drive capacity, but that would be ok with me.
     
  17. dwit

    dwit Active Member

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    When you figure out how to do it, or how weaknees does it, let us know.:D
     
  18. roberte94066

    roberte94066 New Member

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    OK, so I guess my question would be addressed to Comer. How did you add the 320gb external (original) drive to the 2tb internal drive ?
     
  19. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

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    Where do you see that he did this?
     
  20. roberte94066

    roberte94066 New Member

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    I believe I followed the string from the previous post which also quoted him as follows:
    Okay, here is what jmfs developer, Comer, says:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb...83#post8226583

    "You can do it with the current set of tools. However, if your total storage will be greater than 2Tb then you will experience a glitch of unknown consequences. So you better off just using 2tb drive."
     

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