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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. dwit

    dwit Active Member

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    Weaknees methods of achieving this are "trade secrets" right now.

    Outside of the weaknees models, maximum capacity is a total of 2 TB.
     
  2. Big Deficit

    Big Deficit Happy now?

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    HELP!!! I've tried upgrading my premier using jmfs. The copy went fine. I used wdidle3 and that (after a few computer sata issues) went fine too and reports disabled (62 min). When I try to boot, I get the wait screen for maybe a minute then it flashes black, all the lights on the tivo flash and the process restarts. I've now tried both a wd20ears and a wd20eurs with the same result (well, the ears boot loops faster than the eurs). What the heck am I doing wrong? I've added drives to every tivo I've owned all the way back to 2000 and have never had a problem.
     
  3. dwit

    dwit Active Member

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    Have you tried reinstalling the original Tivo drive to see if it starts up and operates properly?

    Were any errors(source,destination) reported on screen during the copy?
     
  4. Big Deficit

    Big Deficit Happy now?

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    Thanks for the reply. I solved the problem. Just in case anyone else has this issue though unlikely-

    My ancient and probably last desktop pc (Asus a7n8x-e deluxe mb) has onboard sata but can't handle large 1T+ drives. It hangs on post if one is connected. That's why I got a pci sata card, which has worked fine including upgrading my TivoHD several years ago. I had trouble applying wdidle3 with the pci card, which says it doesn't support pci-x. I eventually solved that problem by activating the on board sata but not plugging in the drive till after post. Just before bed last night, I thought the sata card could also be messing with the copy but jmfs is not reporting the error. I did the same "hot plug" with the drives and noticed the copy went ~30% faster. When I awoke this morning, I did the expand/super size, installed the drive and had a working 317hr premier.
     
  5. unitron

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    I've got that same motherboard, and you're right, a 1TB SATA drive chokes it.

    However, that same drive with a JMicron or Marvell chipset based SATA/IDE adapter, will boot just fine, manufacturers' diagnostic disks work and aren't bothered by finding a SATA drive on the IDE controller, and I ran wdidle3 on a WD10EACS that way, no problem.

    I even connected 2TB drives, the WD20EADS, that way to format NTFS with the Parted Magic cd.

    So, if they'd kept making bigger and bigger IDE drives, that motherboard could have handled them.

    Too bad the SATA controller wasn't made by whoever made the IDE controller.

    I'll remember that hot plug technique for when all my adapters are tied up elsewhere though.
     
  6. Hilltopper06

    Hilltopper06 New Member

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    I have a Premiere in my living room that I don't want to mess with and an extra Premiere in my closet that I planned to use when my Tivo HD subscription expired but Tivo offered the $99 lifetime so I took it and now I have this 'extra' Premiere.

    Here's my question: is it possible to try to do an upgrade before I activate a subscription on this Premiere or would it have to be fully functional with a subscription to upgrade? I'm asking because if I can get this Premiere to work with a large hard drive then I would pay the $399 for lifetime on it but I don't want to do that unless I know it would work.
     
  7. lillevig

    lillevig Hot in West Texas

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    Just ordered a new Premiere so I was checking out this thread. Been using WINMFS in the past for Series 1, 2DT, and 3HD but I understand that does not work for Premieres. My questions:

    1. Will JMFS work if both drives are connected using external SATA to USB adapters?
    2. Can I make a backup copy of my virgin Tivo drive without voiding the Tivo warranty?
     
  8. lpwcomp

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    Should work as long as you use two separate adapters rather than one multi-drive adapters.
    Since you have to open the TiVo to do this, the answer would be no.
     
  9. lillevig

    lillevig Hot in West Texas

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    I didn't know if the Premiere had a warranty sticker or some other anti-tampering indicator. Since JMFS copies the whole drive I guess I can wait the 90 days before popping the top off. As a retired engineer it's hard to keep my hands out of stuff. :D
     
  10. dwit

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    Yes. You can upgrade the Premiere hard drive before activating a subscription. I have done so(decided not to subscribe).
     
  11. lpwcomp

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    I don't believe there is any kind of anti-tampering device. I didn't say you would get caught if all you did was back it up and put it back in. However, on further consideration, I don't think there is any way to backup a Premiere.:( When you do the upgrade, be sure and store the stock drive in safe place.
     
  12. lillevig

    lillevig Hot in West Texas

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    When I said Backup, what I really meant was to just duplicate the stock drive and store it away to make future drives if the stock one fails. As Buffalo Springfield once said "Paranoia strikes deep". :eek:
     
  13. lpwcomp

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    I'm not paranoid but I know everyone thinks I am.
     
  14. unitron

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    That's not paranoia, that's just a deep and proper appreciation of the full effects and ramifications of Murphy's Law.

    And as we all know, Murphy was an optimist.
     
  15. ~kyle

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    I have a problem (maybe). I just bought a WD20EARS to upgrade my premiere. I've run the WD lifeguard and it passed both the quick and extended tests. But it says that AAM is not supported. So I tried checking with the Hitachi Feature Tool v.2.11 CD and it also said that that feature is not supported. Is this something I should worry about? Has WD changed the drive features for the WD20EARS? Mine has a manufacture date of "03 AUG 2011". I did set the idle time to 300 with no problems.

    Thanks in advance for any help.
     
  16. ThreeSoFar

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    There's also the hdparm utility on the Linux mfs-live CD you could try.

    But even if that fails, the EARS is a green drive, regardless, you're probably fine with the sound as is. Fire it up and see how noisy it is.
     
  17. ~kyle

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    Thanks, I may just do that and fire it up anyway. It's in an enclosed cabinet so I'm probably not going to hear it anyway.
     
  18. Stuxnet

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    Not to go far OT, but you do have the cabinet well-ventilated... yes?
     
  19. ~kyle

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    Abslolutely, it's a well ventilated BDI cabinet that I've been using for several years and never had any heat issues at all. :cool:
     
  20. roberte94066

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    Comer, it appears I do not have enough posts to pm yet. I am trying to add a VVS,(believe that is proper i.d.), drive previously formatted for a THD in a 3rd party case to my Premiere. It sees it, reboots, and then nothing. I was hoping you could send your upgrade instructions to my email address, (robert-e@pacbell.net). Many thanks, Robert E.
     

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