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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Sep 7, 2011 #1201 of 2843
    bd3521

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    I ended up purchasing the 1TB WD10EVDS as it was only $60 on Amazon and was already DVR optimized.

    I am having a big issue with WINMFS (Windows 7). I went to backup my existing tivo drive and it does correctly shows the tivo label when i select the drive. But when I goto to perform a truncated backup or click msinfo it says "not a tivo drive". So I cannot backup my current drive to my new WD10EVDS.

    I wanted to make sure my stock tivo drive still works. Now when I put the original (was previously working fine) tivo drive back it constantly reboots after 10 seconds or so and all lights on the premiere blink. Reboot loop.

    So I tried "option 1" and then "option 2" of the bootpage fix with no luck. What should I do to at least get my original drive operational again?

    Thank you
    -Bryan
     
  2. Sep 7, 2011 #1202 of 2843
    dwit

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    Unfortunately, I think you chose the wrong method to upgrade your Premiere. AFAIK(as far as I know), Winmfs does not work on the Premiere. I think that may be why winmfs does not recognize the drive as a Tivo drive.

    So far, the "image" of the Premiere drive cannot be extracted out as a truncated image like for the s2 and s3. Premiere drives are essentially cloned, and expanded to a larger drive, if that is the case.

    I also think that is why the winmfs "fix boot page" is not working(if indeed the boot sector was corrupted).

    I don't know for sure if your Premiere drive is corrupted and/or if it is, what precisely did it. I do know pretty much the exact thing happened to another poster; maybe this thread, or possibly in another. The only solution that worked there was to find another working Premiere drive to copy using the correct method, namely the JMFS program.
     
  3. Sep 7, 2011 #1203 of 2843
    bd3521

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    Is there any way for me to restore the boot page using JMFS or importing someone else's bootpage? I assume thats the only thing that was mucked with with WinMFS. I don't know what to do besides buying a drive through DVR Dude?
     
  4. Sep 7, 2011 #1204 of 2843
    dwit

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    AFAIK, there is no repair if the drive is too corrupted, for whatever reason. You might try the built in Tivo "kickstart" diagnostics. It can often repair errors encountered during the course of "normal" Tivo operation. You will have to search here, or at tivo.com support for the procedure, as I am not versed in how to initiate. Maybe someone will chime in.

    How long have you had the Tivo? There is free warranty support if less than 90 days. I think it's only $50 if longer than 90days but less than 1 year.

    Again, if you know someone with a Premiere, maybe they will be generous enough to let you try cloning.

    Good luck.
     
  5. Sep 7, 2011 #1205 of 2843
    lpwcomp

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    You mean the warranty that was voided when the case was opened?
     
  6. Sep 7, 2011 #1206 of 2843
    bd3521

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    Its a year and two months anyway. I guess, I'll order another drive.
     
  7. Sep 7, 2011 #1207 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Sorry to hear about the error in trying to upgrade your TiVo Premiere. As dwit suggests you may want to try running TiVo's built-in diagnostic and repair programs called "Kickstarts"...particularly KS57 and KS58. No guarantee that things will get better, but it's worth a try.

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showpost.php?p=5643823&postcount=2

    Note that specific instructions for running the Kickstarts on the Premiere are located near the bottom of the post.
     
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    dwit

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    drhankz

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    JUST REMEMBER - you need to BOOT from JMFS.
    If you let Windows Access the drive it will be CRAP :thumbsdown:
     
  12. Sep 7, 2011 #1212 of 2843
    dwit

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    Yep. Or sell one of them.
     
  13. Sep 7, 2011 #1213 of 2843
    dwit

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    Yep. Disconnect the windows drive.
     
  14. Sep 7, 2011 #1214 of 2843
    drhankz

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    That is NOT what I said
     
  15. Sep 7, 2011 #1215 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Here is what I would do (and this will save you some problems short and long-term):

    1. Install the ebay drive into your existing TiVo.
    2. Run Clear and Delete Everything.
    3. Let it update to the latest OS.
    4. Get it set up completely (pairing cable cards, etc.).
    5. Use it to upgrade.
    6. Put it on the shelf for safe keeping.

    You can mess around with trying to copy the data to your old drive if you'd like but I wouldn't waste my time. Put the "new" OEM drive on the shelf and you're golden.
     
  16. bobman0330

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    Just as another data point, I got the same drive (from Amazon, also for $69) and my upgrade did not work. I got random stuttering escalating into freezes even after trying the upgrade repeatedly, on different computers, etc. I returned the drive and got the WD20EARS, and (cross your fingers) everything seems to have gone perfectly. I noticed that Amazon has stopped listing the Seagate drive due to customer complaints, so it's possible that there are some reliability problems (or Amazon shipping problems).
     
  17. CoxInPHX

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    FYI: The price of the Western Digital AV-GP WD20EURS 2TB has dropped from $99.99 to $79.99 on both Amazon and Newegg.

    http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-AV-GP-Intellipower-Internal/dp/B0042AG9V8/

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136783

    I upgraded my OEM 320GB to the WD20EURS over the weekend, simplest upgrade ever, copy took about 2 hours.

    I paid $89.99 last week, wish I had waited a week, I was expecting the price to go back up, not down.

    One minor issue though, with the OEM 320GB HDD, I never had a single "Green Circle" wait issue using the HDUI. Since the upgrade, I have had to wait several times for the menu to become responsive again. Adding and modifying Season Passes also takes a bit longer to get passed the Please Wait.
     
  18. bd3521

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    Everything works great now - 1TB! Thanks very much guys.
     
  19. jfh3

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    For those looking to upgrade - both Newegg and Amazon have the WD20EURS drive now for $79.99. (The EURS drive is an AV drive that has the AAM setting to the quietest level).

    Usually the AV drives are $10-$20 more (and if you follow the instructions here, there is no advantage to using an AV drive over the regular green ones).
     
  20. M.N.M

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    Has anyone tried adding an expander/external drive to a 2TB TP yet? (Like the weakness model 2TB internal + 2TB external)

    I couldn't find any post mentioning attempts to get this working.
     

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