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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Tivogre

    Tivogre Active Member

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    Just used this to install a 2TB WD EARS drive in my new Premier.

    Reports 317 hours HD.

    THANKS ALL!!!
     
  2. Sep 1, 2011 #1182 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Nice. Enjoy!
     
  3. Sep 2, 2011 #1183 of 2843
    PedjaR

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    WD20EARS is on sale for $69.99 at newegg, with promo code EMCKAKH22. That drive seems to be one of the recommended ones. Worked great for me, and, apparently, a lot of others as well.
     
  4. Sep 2, 2011 #1184 of 2843
    richsadams

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    That's a good price, thanks for posting. :up: I suspect we'll see more discounts on the EARS series as it looks like the EARX will be replacing it.
     
  5. Sep 2, 2011 #1185 of 2843
    unitron

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    Check the reviews on this drive at NewEgg and note how many more negative ones there are lately.

    Apparently WD's quality control on this model isn't what it used to be.
     
  6. Sep 3, 2011 #1186 of 2843
    richsadams

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    I won't rehash the stats again, but I wouldn't hesitate to buy another WD20EARS. The WD20EARS drives that I'm using have been fine...one over a year old the other about a month old now. YMMV of course.
     
  7. Sep 3, 2011 #1187 of 2843
    unitron

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    My email shows a 9 minutes older reply of yours that seems to have evaporated.
    I'm not trying to pick on you, but if you check the reviews on NewEgg, you can filter them for "All reviews", "Last 6 months", and "Last 2 weeks". Comparing those shows a sharp shift to the negative in the "egg" ratings in more recent days.
     
  8. Sep 3, 2011 #1188 of 2843
    richsadams

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    I updated my original post thinking it was a bit too argumentative. I get what you're saying but I still stand by what I said in my last and earlier posts. I'm confident that folks are capable of making up their own minds.
     
  9. Sep 3, 2011 #1189 of 2843
    unitron

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    I ain't tellin' 'em what to do, I'm mentioning what they might want to take into consideration when they decide for themselves what to do.
     
  10. Sep 3, 2011 #1190 of 2843
    vinylb

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    I just bought a Premiere and after much struggle got Comcast to pair up my cablecard. After that I ordered a Seagate Barracuda Green ST2000DL003 and followed procedures outlined in 1st post by Comer to copy the original drive.

    Plugged in Tivo after assembly and noticed that i had about 467 hours of "best quality recording". I thought a 2tb after supersize could only get you about 312 hours. Am I missing something? Why is mine showing much more? Dont get me wrong, I love the extra space but cannot help but be suspicious. :)

    btw thanks to ALL who have contributed and especially to Comer for such an easy process !!!!!


    extra info : from all research I have done ANY new sata drive will work whether its 5400rpm, 5900rp, or 7200rpm. I chose this model due to heat factor. I know a lot has also been said about drives and failure of drives - if you look at newegg, there are a lot of DOA reviews, i believe these are associated with their older shipping methods of throwing into a box with brown paper. Last few drives I have received have all been boxed within another box and held in place by "cups" to hold the sides of the drive in place so its well protected. I only got the Seagate because i missed a deal on the WD drives everybody seems to use here and got this seagate for $69 with free shipping - I dont regret this purchase.
     
  11. Sep 3, 2011 #1191 of 2843
    dwit

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    Check the drive recording capacity in the "System Information" from the "Messages and Settings" on the Tivo Central Menu.
     
  12. Sep 3, 2011 #1192 of 2843
    jfh3

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    That's why I always do an extended test before using a new drive.
     
  13. Sep 4, 2011 #1193 of 2843
    lpwcomp

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    John's...
    The "quality" setting only applies to recordings made from analog channels, where the TiVo is converting to digital and compressing. "Best quality" has the least amount pf compression. A 2TB drive gives @318 hours of HD capacity. Since HD is digital, there is no conversion and the compression is done before the TiVo gets it. This is the case for all digital cable channels, not just the HD ones.
     
  14. Sep 4, 2011 #1194 of 2843
    vinylb

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    Checking that screen does show 316 hours - thanks!
     
  15. Sep 5, 2011 #1195 of 2843
    kreskin

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    Hello,

    I purchased a Tivo Premiere earlier in the year an upgraded it to a 2TB WD 20EARS a few months later. The Tivo stopped working a few weeks later - apparently a power supply issue. I now have a replacement Tivo Premiere and want to upgrade to the WD hard drive. Has anyone had to do that before? Will I need to delete the prior information off of the hard drive and if so, how do I do that? I don't think I want to delete any of the power management features off of the hard drive. Also, are there any other steps I need to follow to make sure my upgrade is successful?

    Thanks,

    Jim
     
  16. Sep 5, 2011 #1196 of 2843
    unitron

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    Are you sure the first Premiere's problem was power supply and not the hard drive going flaky?

    If you still have both units have you tried swapping power supplies to see if the problem follows it?
     
  17. Sep 5, 2011 #1197 of 2843
    kreskin

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    I'm not 100% certain it's not a hard drive issue, but when I put the OEM drive back in the malfunctioning Tivo, it would not get past the initial screen and then power down just like it did with the upgraded hard drive.

    Thanks,

    Jim
     
  18. Sep 5, 2011 #1198 of 2843
    ThreeSoFar

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    The following answers the original question, though unitron's post may be right about the power supply.

    The 2TB WD drive should be tested with diagnostics software to make sure that is fully functional (I believe how to do so is in the FAQ)--this can take hours. If it passes fine, you can use it as the destination drive and the new Premier's hard drive as the source (just in case the problem was in the original Premiere drive somehow). There's no need to wipe what's on there now, it gets overwritten via the backup/restore process that JMFS uses.

    There's no way to preserve the recordings or season passes from your current WD, you'll be starting from scratch with Guided Setup. However, you should allow your Premier to boot up with its original drive, get upgraded from TiVo (if any are available) and have the cable company successfully pair your CableCARD--you can even add your Season Passes and such. That way both your new 2TB drive and your backup original drive (keep that on a shelf) will already have the card paired and such. Any shows it records on the original drive will also get copied over to the new one.

    You won't have to mess with the wdidle or AAM settings at all--those are saved on flash on the drive, not on the drive platters and will retain your previous settings.
     
  19. Sep 5, 2011 #1199 of 2843
    BartonC

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    I've been watching WD drives die early deaths since as long as I can remember. Their use of WD drives is my only tick against TiVo.

    I assume that "other" brands of drives will work for my plans to upgrade my Premier, is that so? Any recommendations there?

    Thanks.

     
  20. Sep 5, 2011 #1200 of 2843
    BartonC

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    Love the Seagate Barracuda. The originals were amazingly quiet. Look at the reviews on the Green model, though, and you may find lots of complaints regarding sound levels.

     

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