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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. NickCat

    NickCat New Member

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    After owning many TiVos over the years, since my first gen Phillips model, that was by far the easiest upgrade yet. Thank you comer, the six pack of Molson Ice is on me!

    My XL is now rocking a WD20EURS.
     
  2. JoeTaxpayer

    JoeTaxpayer Member

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    for what it's worth, I just did this with a 1.5TB WD drive. It now shows 237 hrs HD or (wow) 2073 hrs SD.

    The process took about 2-1/2 hrs to copy the original 320GB drive over, and seconds to expand/supersize. This is every bit as good as instant cake and better as it preserves shows, season pass, etc onto the new drive.
    Beautiful work, thanks.
     
  3. ed08724

    ed08724 Bricktown, NJ

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    Drive had been copying since Monday night and just finished now. 200K error bytes which I didn't think was bad. I installed the 2tB drive back in the Tivo and got the Welcome, powering up then after about 10 seconds a blank screen which doesn't go away. Tried booting a few times with same result. I did not run the msinfo or kickstart stuff as I didn't want to write to the defective drive. Since I started this the replacement and exact same 1.5tB WD15EADS drive arrived from WD. I have restarted the copy using this drive and I guess it will take another 3 days. I will report the results after that.

     
  4. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    I didn't add a second drive, I replaced the OEM drive with a 2TB drive. I needed a second sata data cable in order to connect both drives to my pc.
     
  5. CoxInPHX

    CoxInPHX COX Communications

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    After my 90 days I plan to upgrade the HDD, here are the drives I am considering, any particular one I should go with or is there a better model. Price is not really a major factor, I just want the best most compatible HDD, and don't really want the Caviar Green series. I'd prefer the Caviar Black but am afraid it would get to hot, they run about 110-140F without a heat-sink.

    Western Digital AV-GP WD10EVDS 1TB 32MB Cache
    Western Digital AV-GP WD10EURS 1TB 64MB Cache

    Western Digital AV-GP WD15EVDS 1.5TB 32MB Cache
    Western Digital AV-GP WD15EURS 1.5TB 64MB Cache

    Western Digital AV-GP WD20EURS 2TB 64MB Cache

    Any other manufactures/models I should consider besides WD?
     
  6. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

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    Well, I'm quite happy with my WD10EARS, but price was a definite consideration in my case. I had to go with the least expensive option that I considered quiet enough, cool enough, and robust enough to be a viable option for a TiVo.
     
  7. richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    Any of those drives should work fine. TiVo comes with a WD GP ("green") hard drive and can't take advantage of faster drives or drives with more cache and as you pointed out, heat is always a consideration.

    There's really no reason to go with anything less than 2TB's if you have a TiVo HD, HDXL, Premiere or Premiere XL as the price difference isn't that great.

    As lpwcomp mentions, you could also consider WD's EARS series of drives. The only difference between the EARS and the A/V series drives you've listed (as far as TiVo is concerned) is that the A/V drive's AAM is set to the quietest setting (128 Vs 254). Although it's quiet out of the box you should be able to use hdparm (included on the jmfs program) to adjust the AAM on an EARS drive to 128.

    Those are the drives a majority of folks are using. However a few have successfully installed Samsung and Hitachi "green" drives but they haven't been in service (or even on the market) long enough to warrant a recommendation. Might be something to considered if you didn't want to use a WD drive for some reason.

    Happy upgrading!
     
  8. ed08724

    ed08724 Bricktown, NJ

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    This seems to have worked fine copying to the same size 1.5tb drive. Old previously unplayable shows are now playable. As mentioned previously it did not work copying to a 2tb drive.
    Thanks!

     
  9. richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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    Good news! So do you think there was an issue with that specific 2TB drive? Otherwise it doesn't make sense that it wouldn't work. :confused:

    In any case...enjoy your "new" TiVo!
     
  10. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    If I'd known you were going to wind up going another drive of the same size, I'd have suggested dd_rescue's -r option as well.

    That's where it starts at the end, and works toward the front, which obviously only works on drives of the same size.
     
  11. yoheidiho

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    Any thoughts on the new WD EARX drives?
     
  12. richsadams

    richsadams Active Member

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  13. PocoDiablo

    PocoDiablo New Member

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    Ok, so what am I doing wrong here?

    I have two of the WD WD10EVDS drives. I unplug my Windows HDD and plug in my Tivo Premiere original drive and the WD10EVDS into the 1st and 2nd SATA ports. I am using the software indicated at the start of this thread. I boot up, select copy, and it presents me with TWO drives (one with a serial number label, one that does NOT have a label, but they are BOTH the same 1TB drive ...) and I select one. The software does its thing. After 15-60 minutes it stops copying and tells me it has an error. Right now it says there is an error of 1001k. Should I just wait?

    I've tried both the first version of the drive (/dev/sda) and the second version of the drive (/dev/sdc) and they both have errors.

    I have tried this with both drives. Same deal.

    What's up?
     
  14. PocoDiablo

    PocoDiablo New Member

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    Update, it seems to be done, but now it has 242GB of bad data which is says it is trimming. I'll update if I really lost that capacity.
     
  15. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Well-Known Member

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    You don't by any chance have some kind of RAID setting enabled?
     
  16. PocoDiablo

    PocoDiablo New Member

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    Nope. I'm an IT guy and this computer is 100% plain vanilla setup. Now it says it's splitting blocks. For the past few hours.

    Sucks to be me, oh well.
     
  17. PocoDiablo

    PocoDiablo New Member

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    I let it run overnight, and it still says "splitting failed blocks" with 242GB of errors. I guess it's stuck.

    Any suggestions?
     
  18. dwit

    dwit Active Member

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    Do you have another computer you could try? I am not an "IT" type at all but have done the procedure 3 times using 2 different computers(both pretty ancient). And although it's been a few months since doing them, each time there was no confusion in identifying either of the drives(that I recall). When connected to the motherboard, JMFS clearly recognized and identified the source Tivo drive, and any available "targets".

    Of the 3 target drives I used, 2 were used and one was new. No errors were reported on either drive by prior manufacturer's diagnostics, and confirmed by JMFS. The copy/expand/supersizing processes were all uneventful and completed without complications.

    Your prior posts on the "confusion" experienced when the drives were connected and the ensuing problems may indicate something was not quite right. Maybe you need to tweak some settings in the bios, or try switching sata ports, or again, try another computer, if available.

    Also, have you run manufacturers diagnostics on your target drives? I always do this, even on brand new drives, so as to know the drives are (supposedly) not defective going in to the process. Same for the source Tivo drive(I'm beginning to think this may ultimately prove to be the problem).

    Lastly, make sure you are using the most recent version of JMFS(rev 104 as I recall).

    Good luck.
     
  19. PocoDiablo

    PocoDiablo New Member

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    Thanks for the comments dwit. I have just put my PC back to normal and put one of the new drives in as a second drive and Windows 7 is recognizing it as TWO drives as well. I've never seen anything like this.

    I'm going to look for some WD tools, this has to be a setup issue with the drives.
     
  20. PocoDiablo

    PocoDiablo New Member

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    Okay, dwit thank you. I found some diagnostic tools from WD and ran it on one of the drives. The second "ghost" drive suddenly disappeared from the Windows Drive Management tool and now I am formatting it NTFS. Once that is done I'll try the process again with the other drive, and then try my upgrade.

    I've never seen this before, so weird.

    Link to the tool:

    http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?groupid=610&sid=3&lang=en
     

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