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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Oct 4, 2010 #81 of 2843
    jbell73

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    I think it was 9.8, or maybe 9.6. It doesn't matter, since you need to add the WDIDLE program to the /Programs folder and then access it via command prompt. I only used it for the boot feature to get me to a non-Windows command prompt.

    -JBell73
     
  2. Oct 4, 2010 #82 of 2843
    True Colors

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    I think that I am ready to take a swing at this. I have a Tivo premiere which has been paired with a cable card from Fios. I have also received my new 2TB drive from new egg that was recommended here by rich.

    One question..... do I have to adjust the jumpers on the SATA drives for this process? Is the original source drive that I am pulling out of the Premiere considerd the "master" drive and then the new 2TB the "slave"?

    Thanks,

    TC
     
  3. Oct 4, 2010 #83 of 2843
    comer

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    SATA does not have a master/slave notion, so no jumper adjustment is necessary.
    Good luck with your upgrade! :up:
     
  4. Oct 4, 2010 #84 of 2843
    kturcotte

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    After I boot up with the DOS cd it wants a floppy disk, but I want to give it the cd with the Western Digital tool on it. What do I do?
     
  5. Oct 4, 2010 #85 of 2843
    comer

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    I can't try myself right now, but can you take out your boot cd and put in the cd with the wdidle?
     
  6. Oct 4, 2010 #86 of 2843
    kturcotte

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    I did, but it didn't do anything. This is EXACTLY what I get once MS DOS starts:

    CD ROM Device Driver for IDE (Four Channel Supported)
    Copyright Oak Technology INC. 1993-1996
    Device Version V340
    Device Name: BANANA
    No drivers found, aborting installation

    Device driver not found: 'BANANA'.
    No valid CDROM device drivers selected
    A:\>
     
  7. Oct 4, 2010 #87 of 2843
    richsadams

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    BANANA is the most common driver for CD/DVD drives. It's possible that your CD/DVD drive is not compatible. Try changing directories to R: or S: (A:\ cd R: ). See if you can get to wdidle3.exe that way. If not you may need to get The Ultimate Boot CD to create a new bootable CD with wdidle3 (downloaded separately).

    http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/

    Or is it WD's Lifeguard you're trying to use…or something else? Forgive me…posts become a blur after a while so you may have to spell out exactly what it is you're trying to do to refresh our memories (at least mine anyway ;) ).

    That's my WAG, but I may be off base a bit since I haven't gone down that path in quite a while. Comer or others may have better advice.
     
  8. Oct 4, 2010 #88 of 2843
    True Colors

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    Okay, I am trying to do this but I seem to have hit a roadblock.

    Here is everything that I did, step by step.

    I successfully burned the ISO image to a bootable CD

    I removed the hard drive from my Tivo Premiere.

    I connected my original TIVO premier hard drive to my PC by using an adapter cable

    I connected my new 2 TB blank hard drive(Western Digital model WD20EVDS) to my PC by using another adapter cable

    I turned off my computer.

    I loaded the bootable CD into my PC and turned the power on. As expected, it now boots up in a Linux environment. It seemed to be working fine at that point.

    It asked me if I want to:
    [C] copy
    [E] expand
    [X] exit
    shutdown

    I picked "copy."

    Then it tells me it only recognizes one Tivo drive connected to my system. It asks me if I would like to use it as a source for copy

    I click "yes"

    THEN I HIT MY PROBLEM........

    It tells me that it only detects the Tivo original drive and one other drive on my system----the hard drive on my PC. It asks me if I want to use it as a target for copy.

    At this point I am stuck. I do not know what to do. I was hoping to copy the image from my original Tivo hard drive onto the new blank 2TB drive. But since this application does not even recognize that the 2TB is there, it will not let me write to it.

    What do I do? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,

    TC
     
  9. Oct 4, 2010 #89 of 2843
    txporter

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    Could it be the adapter or usb port? Have you tried connecting the drive with the adapter under windows? That drive should be recognized fine as others have used it successfully. I just started the copy procedure on a WD20EARS tonight and it was recognized on an adapter.
     
  10. Oct 5, 2010 #90 of 2843
    richsadams

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    It's probably a BIOS issue. I trust your PC's hard drive is SATA? If so try disconnecting your PC's hard drive SATA and power cable and connect the SATA and power cable to your new hard drive. Your OEM TiVo drive will be connected by the USB adapter which you know is recognized and you know also that your MB recognizes your PC's hard drive so the program should see both now. FWIW you don't need your PC's hard drive connected at all since you're booting up in a DOS program from your optical drive.
     
  11. Oct 5, 2010 #91 of 2843
    joesebastian

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    I have a S3 that I upgraded to 1TB about a year ago. I still have the stock 250GB that ships with the S3. I am concerned that there has been software updates from Tivo.
    My question is:
    I would like to upgrade to 1.5TB using jmfs. I have WD15EARS.
    Do I use the stock S3 disk as the source (to copy) from a year ago or the 1TB that is currently running the S3?
    Did you use Spike supersize after the copy or did you just use the jmfs expand or both?

    Thanks
    Joe
     
  12. Oct 5, 2010 #92 of 2843
    True Colors

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    Yes. The internal hard drive on my PC IS a SATA drive. It is a western digital 80 gig(WD800 model).

    I will try your suggestion later this evening when I get home.

    Thanks Rich!

    TC
     
  13. Oct 5, 2010 #93 of 2843
    kturcotte

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    I understand about the posts becoming a blur lol It's the wdidle3.exe that I'm trying to use.
    Also, does it matter WHEN that's done (Before/after "Tivoing" the new drive)?
     
  14. Oct 5, 2010 #94 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Doesn't matter when it's done. Might not even need to be done…as mentioned earlier it depends on the drive, manufacture date, etc.
     
  15. Oct 5, 2010 #95 of 2843
    kturcotte

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    It's a Western Digital WD20EVDS-63T3BO with a manufacturer's date of 08Setp2010. If it helps any, the serial # is WCAVY5511393
     
  16. Oct 5, 2010 #96 of 2843
    richsadams

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    FWIW tried running Comer's JMFS program with a Series3 OEM drive and the program did not recognize the drive due to the file structure (which is different from a Premiere and a TiVo HD/HDXL). So I don't think it will work. If not, you can get 1.26GB of a 1.5TB drive by using the standard winMFS upgrade method that you used to upgrade to 1TB. Not sure if it's worth it or not. I will PM you with more info.

    With regard to the current software version and using the OEM drive for upgrades, it really doesn't matter unless you've switched cableco providers in which case you'd lose your cable card pairing by using the OEM drive. You could slip the OEM drive back in and it will automatically update to the latest software or you could upgrade using the OEM drive and the new drive will get updated.

    FWIW if you want to use your OEM drive and want to save your current Season Passes and Wish Lists, sign up for TiVo Guru Guides or KidZone before upgrading. When you upgrade the SP's and WLs will be repopulated after TiVo contacts the "mother ship".
     
  17. Oct 5, 2010 #97 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Sept. 8th is right on the line…although IIRC there someone had an EVDS that was dated in July and didn't need Intellipark to be tweaked. About the only way to find out is to upgrade and see if, one, it boots up and if it boots up if it will reboot from a menu restart. If it does all of that, then you wouldn't need to mess with wdidle3.exe. Kind of trial and error right now.
     
  18. Oct 5, 2010 #98 of 2843
    kturcotte

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    So just run Comer's program, put it in the Tivo, and IF it boots, reboot it using the menu. If that works-everything's fine. If it doesn't work, I can then go ahead and do the wdidle3.exe tweak and not have to use Comer's program again?
     
  19. Oct 5, 2010 #99 of 2843
    kturcotte

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    Also, what's the MOST this should take? I have a program ending at 4 pm and the next one is scheduled for 9 pm. Should I be able to complete EVERYTHING and have it up and running by 9?
     
  20. Oct 5, 2010 #100 of 2843
    akaussie

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    When I upgraded to a 2 TB drive the process took 5+ hours (not sure exactly how long, as I went to bed before it finished up).
    On my iMac I was working with a USB to SATA connections for both the original Tivo drive and the new hard drive..
     

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