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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. May 7, 2011 #881 of 2843
    ThreeSoFar

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    You can make as many dupes as you like, for different TiVos, from the same source drive. All will work.

    The one caveat is that all of the boxes except the on the source drive came from to begin with will report a "hardware error", and will not work at all, at first. This is due to the drive containing the hardware address (TSN) of the original system it came from and the other boxes not matching that address.

    The menus work though, and once you go to the CADE option (Clear and Delete Everything), and once that process finishes (can take hours), it will work fine.
     
  2. May 7, 2011 #882 of 2843
    bd3521

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    I could, I know linux pretty well and hardware.

    Assuming I made adjustments, why would the WD10EARS be superior?

    I could go either way but would rather take the out the box solution if they were equivalent.
     
  3. May 7, 2011 #883 of 2843
    richsadams

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    HDDScan will do the trick.

    Never said it would be a superior solution. With respect to TiVo they are equals performance-wise. WD's non-A/V GP drives (such as the WD10EARS) are usually less expensive.

    Any of the WD A/V GP line of drives would be a fine choice then.

    Happy upgrading!
     
  4. May 7, 2011 #884 of 2843
    Stuxnet

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    Probably cheaper than the A/V drives... otherwise I would say "comparable" versus "superior".
     
  5. May 8, 2011 #885 of 2843
    akbungle

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    Wow THANKS that totally saved me on my TiVo HD that I just replaced the HDD on. It kept giving me that "hardware error" "51" and saying it needed to restart and that it may take up to three hours but everytime it came back to say "hardware error" again:mad:. But after trying the Clear and Delete Everything option it came back and is now working great! Thanks again.:cool:
     
  6. May 9, 2011 #886 of 2843
    bd3521

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    Comparable? What would be different?

    I understand the slight price difference but aren't the drives equivalent (specs, RPM, power usage, reliability, etc...) after configuring EARS?
     
  7. May 9, 2011 #887 of 2843
    Stuxnet

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    http://www.wdc.com/en/products/internal/
     
  8. May 9, 2011 #888 of 2843
    richsadams

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    WD A/V GP drives have a number of features designed to enhance DVR applications...mostly aimed at the security DVR market to address the high number of inputs (multiple cameras), recording at slow frame rates, etc. Those features are designed to improve the performance and/or add to the drive's longevity. The features add to the cost of manufacturing.

    TiVo can't or doesn't need to take advantage of any of the A/V DVR features so with the exception of their acoustic settings there's no real advantage to using them when it comes to TiVo.
     
  9. May 10, 2011 #889 of 2843
    ducker

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    Good price on a 2TB drive:
    SAMSUNG Spinpoint F4 HD204UI 2TB 5400 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152245
    $69.99 with code EMCKEJK37
    Good for about 24hours.

    I haven't searched the tivo forums yet to see if anyone has any experience with this drive in a Premiere unit.
     
  10. May 10, 2011 #890 of 2843
    richsadams

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    That is a good price for a 2TB drive. Although some folks here are using them 1TB Sammys have a checkered past with TiVo historically either not working at all or becoming glitchy or failing later. AFAIK there's no data on the newer 2TB drives though. It would be good to have some feedback...however caveat emptor.
     
  11. May 10, 2011 #891 of 2843
    ducker

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    Good to know.. I'm going to ponder this situation prior to pulling the trigger on it. And decide tonight. I've had one drive that's been running for about 5 years (in a S2 box, and then a D* Tivo box) . I'm kinda curious as to what drive that one is :)
     
  12. May 10, 2011 #892 of 2843
    jcthorne

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    I just bought a WD Green 2tb at amazon on Friday for $73. This is a drive with long history of working well in the tivo.
     
  13. May 10, 2011 #893 of 2843
    ducker

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    I wish I knew about that on friday :)
     
  14. May 10, 2011 #894 of 2843
    jcthorne

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    Yep, they are $78 today. They will go back down. I have an alert set at camelcamelcamel for this and several other items I and friends need on a regular basis. Buy them when the price drops. Amazon pricing can fluctuate several times a day.
     
  15. May 10, 2011 #895 of 2843
    unitron

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    All well and good provided that the drive they advertise is actually the drive they ship, said the guy who ordered two RE2s and got a box containing 2 "adult novelty items", and who ordered what in the pictures was a 512 byte sector WD20EADS with 32MB of cache and got a 4K platters WD20EACS with 16MB of cache.
     
  16. May 10, 2011 #896 of 2843
    ThreeSoFar

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    Almost all of my Pre-Premiere upgrades of TiVos were done with Samsung Spinpoint drives, somewhere between 10 and 15 upgrades (mine and friends').

    No problems at all.
     
  17. May 12, 2011 #897 of 2843
    Charles R

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    Will the CD boot fine without having any TiVo drives attached? I'm trying to test if my PC will work ok and it takes forever and finally displays Boot Failed. Does this mean Linux itself couldn't load via the CD or something else?

    During bootup it displays...

    Loading boot/vmlinuz... followed by boot failed.

    Thanks.

    UPDATE: The PC must not be supported as the CD booted fine on my Intel Mac.
     
  18. May 12, 2011 #898 of 2843
    Stuxnet

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    That, or your Mac is more tolerant of a dodgy CD burn. As you discovered, you don't need the TiVo drive attached to boot.
     
  19. May 13, 2011 #899 of 2843
    JavaJoe_2

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    Thanks, Comer!!
    Beer is on the way....:up:
     
  20. May 16, 2011 #900 of 2843
    sliu2005

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    My TiVo Premiere is stuck in reboot loop, after plug in, it shows "welcome, starting up" screen, then all lights blink once, the screen goes blank, and returns to "welcome, starting up" screen. It does this continuously.

    I have upgraded to 2TB WD20EVDS based on instructions in this thread (thanks to Comer for his excellent work). It has been working flawlessly for months until recently. The first sign of trouble is, suddenly, all front panel lights started to blink, so I power cycled the TiVo. After that TiVo boots up ok, but then some time later the menu froze while it is recording. so I power cycled again. This is when the endless reboot loop occurred.

    I plan to hook up the drive to PC and run WD tool to check for drive errors. If there's no bad sectors, it is probably data corruption, I'll use jmfs to copy from stock drive again (I have the stock drive as backup). Otherwise I'll get a replacement drive and also copy from stock drive.

    Either way, my recordings will be gone. My question is, if WD diagnostics tool report no bad sector (so it is just data corruption due to software bugs), is it possible to restore my recordings? TiVo support has no better suggestion other than replace the unit. I also saw the kickstart 54 option, but my TiVo Premiere won't start, so I cannot reboot from menu and use kickstart.

    I am thinking if the OS is corrupted, maybe I can restore the OS only, and leave the recordings intact? is there a way to achieve this? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
     

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