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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Mar 22, 2011 #801 of 2843
    lakesideguy

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    Hi Comer,

    Thanks so much for all your work.
    It really was as easy as your instructions.
    I burned your ISO CD. I disconnected my hard drives on the PC and used those sata connections for the TIVO drive and the drive to be upgraded.

    And now I have 2 TB in my Tivo Premier I just got 2 weeks ago and over 300 hours of HD recording.

    The drive was a WD20EARS green drive bought at Amazon for 79 bucks.
    I did not have to use wdidle3 nor set the AAM.
    Everything has been working perfectly over the past week.

    The 79 was well worth the upgrade!!!!

    Thanks!
     
  2. Mar 22, 2011 #802 of 2843
    MikeAndrews

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    Wow! Interesting. It was when I resurrected my HP Mediasmart that my Premiere started having problems.

    Along the way I unplugged the TiVo (short term) and the Mediasmart (longer) from the LAN and I still had problems...butttttttt...what if the content transferred from the WHS to the TiVo is corrupted and that causes the TiVo to flake whenever it comes across it?
     
  3. Mar 22, 2011 #803 of 2843
    Fofer

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    Just having an HP Mediasmart on the same NETWORK is causing issues with a Premiere? WTF? How odd. Very, very odd.
     
  4. Mar 23, 2011 #804 of 2843
    Donni

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    I had the same problem like yours. To solve the problem, I just uninstall HP Mediasmart Expander for Tivo from my HP Mediasmart EX490. After that, Tivo works perfectly, even HP Mediasmart still connect to my home networking. I hope this solution can help other members, too.
     
  5. Mar 24, 2011 #805 of 2843
    lakesideguy

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    I just upgraded my Tivo Premier to 2 TB using the EARS drive same model. I can't hear it all inside my box.....

    I don't know if that helps but even if it's quiter I can't see how it matters considering I cant even here the EARS drive anyway. I prefer reliability and as a matter of my own opinion I think Western Digital is better over my past 30 years of experience.
     
  6. Mar 24, 2011 #806 of 2843
    wesbc

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    Thanks for the input. I'm going to try un-installing and re-installing and see. One of the reason I got the EX490 was because of the Tivo expander. This was really helpful when I only had the stock drive, but still I like off loading all my movies to it. I suppose I can put it on my PC, but the mediasmart would be online more often.

    At least now I know the reason and do not have to worry about trying to swap the drive out of my Tivo.
     
  7. Mar 24, 2011 #807 of 2843
    ducker

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    Rich,
    Is there an "official" of drives that have been utilized in a Premiere box? I'm looking to spec out all the parts I'll need to upgrade a Premiere box before I order it. and the link that brings me to your official guide looks like it contains a lot of dated information in the top post. (ie. limits of only 1gb drive expansions)

    Thanks!
     
  8. Mar 24, 2011 #808 of 2843
    wesbc

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    Right now the popular choice is any of the WD Green drives, was going to use one but 2 I bought both fail extended test. I'm using the Hitachi cool spin and have heard others using the Samsung F4. I think it's pretty safe with any of the 5X00rpm drives but be sure to do an extended test on them to safe you headaches of a bad drive. There's not much in parts, just the drive, unless you need some torx screw drivers for remove the drive.
     
  9. Mar 24, 2011 #809 of 2843
    ducker

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    Yea I already did one upgrade ages ago so I should still have my Torx drives. You're running an extended test through what tool?

    Thanks.
     
  10. Mar 24, 2011 #810 of 2843
    wesbc

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    I think the 2 main ones are the WD Data Lifeguard and Hitachi Drive fitness. I've used the WD tools on all sorts of drive, not just WD drive. I have had issue with connecting the drives to an external doc so if you are using one and have issue, be sure to test connecting directly to the Motherboard. With a 2TB drive, it'll take 5-6hr, but when you are going to store that much data, it's a small price to pay.
     
  11. Mar 24, 2011 #811 of 2843
    MikeAndrews

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    Just so ya know, the HP WHS TiVo content is stored in a strange-to-TiVo format. I tried copying off the .tivo files and putting them to be transferred by PyTiVo and the TiVo will not play them. IIRC it sees them as 0 length. YeahIdid try renaming them to .Tivo like transferred files, too.

    It was in trying to transfer them to the TiVo Premiere where I had my first crashes.
     
  12. Mar 29, 2011 #812 of 2843
    ducker

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  13. Mar 29, 2011 #813 of 2843
    unitron

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    The egg people have a 1.5 WD green on sale today.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...11-Index-_-InternalHardDrives-_-22136513-L03B

    and the discount code is here:

    http://promotions.newegg.com/neemai..._-EMC-032911-Index-_-Header-banner-_-AllDeals
     
  14. Mar 29, 2011 #814 of 2843
    ducker

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    yea its tempting... but if I'm going to upgrade a drive in a Premiere unit, why go with 1.5tb when you can do 2tb!
     
  15. Mar 29, 2011 #815 of 2843
    unitron

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    If you don't want one, feel free not to buy one.
     
  16. Mar 29, 2011 #816 of 2843
    wesbc

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    Anyone notice that their Tivo becomes sluggish as the drive fills up? Mine is at 40% full and I notice that even the Guide seems to be sluggish. As I page up and down it'll take nearly a full second for it to populate all the time slot and some individual ones make take a little bit longer. Paging through My Shows also seems to be slower as well, taking a full second or more for each page. Don't recall it being this slow before.

    Will be recording a boat load of movies from a free preview this weekend, hopefully I don't grind it to a halt.
     
  17. Mar 29, 2011 #817 of 2843
    gilbreen

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    Just wanted to add another data point and extend my thanks to comer for his great tool.

    I updated both of our Premiere boxes using the Hitachi CoolSpin 2TB drives that have been previously mentioned. I, too, purchased them at our local Fry's for $69. I first tested the drives using SpinRite by grc.com to identify any bad sectors but none were found.

    I followed the instructions in the forum provided by comer. Couldn't have been simpler or gone any smoother. It is nice to have gone from a drive that was 95% full to now only 13% full.

    Thanks to all those who have posted info and suggestions along the way.
     
  18. Mar 29, 2011 #818 of 2843
    Fofer

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    are you using HD menus or SD menus?
    HD was poorly implemented and slow. SD is fast.

    what free preview is going on this weekend?
     
  19. Mar 29, 2011 #819 of 2843
    wesbc

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    Yeah, I'm using HD menus and I know it's slow, but it was liveable. Now it's seems like a dog. It did crash/reboot last night while just watching live TV so maybe it had to do some re-indexing. Guide seems to be better now.

    Free preview for Stars and Encore for Fios from 3/31 - 4/4. That's one thing I like about having so much space, that I can record so much stuff that I can live with just the free preview I get.
     
  20. Mar 29, 2011 #820 of 2843
    richsadams

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    The 2TB on our Premiere XL is 70% and the 1TB on our Series3 is full. Honestly I haven't seen any real changes in response times from when they were new so what you're experiencing is
    worrisome.

    EDIT: It's a bit of a PIA but you might try going into your Recently Deleted folder and permanently deleting everything there (our Premiere XL has just shy of 400 recordings in there! :eek:) Also try removing any SP"s that you don't need. Those kinds of things seem to have helped other's TiVo's become a little snappier.
     

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