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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Mar 16, 2011 #781 of 2843
    unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Use the free version of TiVo Desktop to copy off any shows you want to save to computer hard drive space, then do a truncated backup image, then restore it to the 1TB.

    What you've got going on is the 500 has the maximum allowed number per drive of MFS partitions, so you need to start over and make larger versions of those partitions.

    I'm only familiar with doing the backup restore thing with MFS Live (and I'm starting to play with WinMFS) on S1s and S2s, so can't tell you the exact procedure for whatever jmfs is.
     
  2. Mar 16, 2011 #782 of 2843
    ThreeSoFar

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    jmfs won't cut it. It's a pre-fabbed menu that strictly does a dd_rescue copy then an expand.
     
  3. Mar 17, 2011 #783 of 2843
    TheNJDevil

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    Hi everyone, my first post but been lurking around for a few months. I had an issue with the supersize upgrade and wondering what I could have done to possible cause the problem. I have a replacement unit and before I undertake the process again, I'd like to figure out what I could have done wrong. I'd consider myself a somewhat tech savvy person; put together PCs myself but no longer doing that as the kids keep me plenty busy but don't know anything about linux.

    Here are the steps I performed:
    - Bought a WD20EARS
    - Did the AAM adjustment as outlined in Section IV, #32 using Hddscan (can't post link since I don't have enough posts)
    - Carefully took out the TiVo HD from my Tivo Premiere
    - Connected both the Tivo HD and the WD20EARS to my PC using SATA
    - Booted from Jmfs
    - Did the Copy, Expand, Supersize
    - There were no errors so I took the WD20EARS and installed it into the Premiere

    Upon starting, the Premiere would get stuck at the second bootup screen that says "Just a few mintues more". Unplugged the Tivo and tried one more time and got to the same point without successfully getting the Tivo to work.

    I then removed the WD20EARS and put in the original Tivo Premiere HD. Same exact problem. It would only get to the second screen, "Just a few mintues more" and would not successfully start up.

    This was a brand new Tivo and I waited 3 days before I did the Supersize. Could that have anything to do with it?

    Right now I'm on a replacement unit that's been going for almost 2 months. And before I attempt this again, I'd like to figure out where I may have made a mistake. Any feedback or assistance is appreciated.
     
  4. Mar 17, 2011 #784 of 2843
    MikeAndrews

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    How long did you wait "just a few minutes more?" It takes a long time the first time you install the upgraded drive - like 15 minutes. It does a fsck drive check or something.

    Let the TiVo cook for a half hour and see if it comes up. As long as you don't get a GSOD - Green Screen of Death, don't unplug it.
     
  5. Mar 17, 2011 #785 of 2843
    TheNJDevil

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    I waited a good 15-20 minutes, maybe more.

    So I should wait at least 30 minutes before throwing in the towel? I could swear I probably let it go for 30 minutes at least once.
     
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  7. Mar 18, 2011 #787 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Never unplug TiVo if you get the MFS assert (GSOD). Doing so can cause irreparable data corruption. Always let TiVo go through the diagnostic and repair process and reboot itself. (Unless it goes into a reboot loop.) :)
     
  8. Mar 18, 2011 #788 of 2843
    TheNJDevil

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    I actually recall it going into a reboot loop with both drives (original Tivo HD and new WD) . . . I'm remembering a little bit more now.

    When opening the Premiere is there a special way to power down the box before unplugging and opening?
     
  9. Mar 18, 2011 #789 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Nothing special for the Premiere or any other TiVo for that matter...just unplug it. Avoid dropping metal objects on or touching the power supply when the case is off...it can still pack a punch. :)
     
  10. Mar 19, 2011 #790 of 2843
    jsquared222

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    Comer’s upgrade software works like a champ! Thanks Comer! I just upgraded my Premiere with a Western Digital WD20EARS hard drive and it was very easy. The hard drive manufacture date was December 2010. I had no soft reboot issues.
     
  11. Mar 20, 2011 #791 of 2843
    uforia

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    I upgraded my new (refurb) Premiere with the 2TB Hitachi Coolspin yesterday. Went off without a hitch and booted up fine the first time. I used the latest JMFS and did the copy/expand/supersize. Piece of cake.

    I also tried the hdparm commands to adjust acoustics and APM. Based on what I read here I didn't expect it to work, and it didn't. But the Hitachi drive is pretty quiet.

    I have a WD20EARS on the way, but wanted to get this done this weekend. And the $69.99 for the 2TB Hitachi at Fry's this week was just too good of a deal. I'll be putting the WD in another Premiere I have on the way to upgrade the bedroom now.

    Also, a bit interesting.... the stock HDD I pulled from the refurb Premiere had a round sticker on it that say "BAD HDD". That's really encouraging!!
     
  12. Mar 20, 2011 #792 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Congrats and nice job! :up: Did you happen to write down the Hitachi's exact model number? If it's quiet enough it would be good to have an alternative going forward. TIA.

    Enjoy!
     
  13. Mar 20, 2011 #793 of 2843
    uforia

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    I didn't note anything off the drive itself. I didn't look closely thinking I could just check the box again later (it's a retail version). But the box doesn't have many details. It shows a mfg # 0S03222, but that number apparently associated with Fry's only (if you do a Google search with it).

    Here is the link for those interested. It is a SATA3 (6Gbps) version and has a 3 year warranty.
    http://www.frys.com/product/6554753
     
  14. Mar 20, 2011 #794 of 2843
    ThreeSoFar

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    These might be it....the specs are similar:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145475

    http://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-Deskstar-3-5-Inch-CoolSpin-0F12117/dp/B004E9SGO0
     
  15. Mar 20, 2011 #795 of 2843
    km

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    Is there any info on how quiet the 2TB Hitachi Coolspin is relative to the WD20EARS?

    I have 2 Hitachi Deskstar 7K2000 which makes a lot of noise. Its not really the constant rotational noise that is the problem, but the crackle and pop of the head motion when its busy.

    One of them is in an HD Tivo, and pretty much covered by the fan and insulation of the unit.

    The other I use in a small no fan usb enclosure with mythtv. The head motion noise is very noticeable, and thats the one I want to replace. The Coolspin caught my eye since Frys has it locally at $69. I would have to do mail order to get the WD for $79. But my main concern is any difference in head noise.
     
  16. Mar 20, 2011 #796 of 2843
    richsadams

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    What would be really helpful is to have both the model number listed on the box (there s/b a sticker with a alpha numerical line that starts off with "HD") as well as the actual model number from the label on the drive. This is important because Hitachi has a bad habit of changing drives in their retail/packaged products. Plus their retail products are often different from the OEM (bare) drives.

    The issue is acoustics (noise). They have a few drives that are very quiet, but others sound like thrashing machines...and as many have discovered changing the AAM is often not an option anymore.

    If you happen to open your TiVo again let us know the drive model. TIA!
     
  17. Mar 20, 2011 #797 of 2843
    wesbc

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    Well here's a little update with my freeze / reboot situation after upgrading to 2TB. I think I've narrowed it down to my HP EX490 Mediasmart sever. With it powered off, my Tivo seems to be happy, which I do not understand as I've had the two co-exist prior to the upgrade. I did also put in a new WD black 2TB and reloaded my mediasmart at the time, reinstall Tivo Expander and move back all my show on the mediasmart (about 1.5TB worth). This is a real head scratcher. Wish I have a some sort of packet analyzer... well actually a network admin that know how to use one too. LOL.
     
  18. Mar 20, 2011 #798 of 2843
    wesbc

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    It's quiet. As with all green drive, they are very quiet. I have one in my Tivo and I can't hear a thing sitting a few feet away.
     
  19. Mar 21, 2011 #799 of 2843
    uforia

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    Digging in the trash I found that the anti-static bag had a sticker on the other side I didn't see. There are a few different numbers, so I'll list them all. These are for the Hitachi Coolspin 2TB on sale this week at Frys:

    C P/N: H3D20003254S
    P/N: 0F12117
    MLC: MNL580
    Capacity: 2.0TB FW:580
    HDS5C3020ALA632
    JAN-2011

    Hope this helps. Systems seems to be running fine, except for some "network unavailable" errors on the HDUI, which I expect are completely unrelated to the upgrade after some reading on the board.
     
  20. Mar 21, 2011 #800 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Thanks for that...good info. :up: That looks to be the drive (HDS5C3020ALA632) ThreeSoFar referenced above:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145475

    http://www.amazon.com/Hitachi-Deskstar-3-5-Inch-CoolSpin-0F12117/dp/B004E9SGO0

    We'll have to add this one to the options list.

    Keep us apprised about your experiences. TIA!
     

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