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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Feb 10, 2011 #681 of 2843
    rkrenicki

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    I too have been interested in this. I have two Premieres, both with WD10EARS drives in them. One drive I expanded myself, and the other was a DVR-Dude drive from ebay.

    I have been feeling a bit cramped with all my HD recordings, so I have been thinking about upgrading to WD20EADS/WD20EARS or WD20EURS, but I wanted to expand the drive again if at all possible. I will be ordering the drive(s) next week and get back with results, but this is promising that someone else was able to do it.
     
  2. Feb 10, 2011 #682 of 2843
    retiredqwest

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    Even though this is a TP thread, the original post was concerning a THD that had been copied and expanded using Winmfs. And using JMFS to copy and expand that as the source and expanding to a larger drive for the THD.

    Since I have a TP:
    I'll copy and expand the 320G to a 500G.
    Then see if the 500G will copy and expand to a 2TB.

    I want to use the 500G since it will take less time to do the second step.

    Be back later....

    well more like tomorrow.....
     
  3. Feb 10, 2011 #683 of 2843
    rkrenicki

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    That is true, I have a few drives kicking around that I could try that on as well.

    Either way I will be upgrading to 2tb, but if I can get around shuffling content around on my tivos and TTG, all the better.
     
  4. Feb 10, 2011 #684 of 2843
    BigT4187

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    Wow! What a smooth upgrade! Everything went as expected. The hardest part was putting the cover back on the TiVo Premiere! Some details:

    • My Western Digital 2TB drive arrived today (http://amzn.to/gYeyhx) with a manufacture date of Dec 04 2010.
    • I removed the 320GB drive from the TiVo Premiere
    • I connected both drives to my PC via SATA cable directly to the motherboard.
    • I booted up the live CD and it detected both drives
    • I started the copy. It took just under 2 hours to complete.
    • I expanded the new 2TB drive
    • I "supersized" the new 2TB drive
    • After the "supersize" was complete, I powered down the PC and disconnected the 320GB original TiVo Premiere hard drive
    • I booted up the Hitachi tools to set the AAM to 128
    • Since the manufacture date on the new drive was 12/04/2010 I decided to try and NOT set the IntelliPark setting.
    • I put the new hard drive in the TiVo, remembered to connect the power & data cables. :)
    • I put the cover back on, reconnected the cable, HDMI, LAN and power cables and waited
    • The TiVo booted up in a few minutes and I confirmed 317 hours of HD recording time.
    • I restarted the TiVo via the menus and crossed my fingers
    • The TiVo booted up without any issues at all.
    • The original TiVo 320GB drive is now sitting in my closet in an anti-static bag just in case it is ever needed.

    Thanks to Comer for this wonderful tool (a donation will be on its way as soon as I finish posting this.)

    Also, thanks to Rich for his help and guidance.

    If you are considering doing this upgrade, do not be concerned at all. Like I said, everything went smoothly.

    Thanks again.
     
  5. Feb 11, 2011 #685 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Thanks for the info on the Hitachi drive...great to know. Although the link to the specs on the Hitachi website is for a 3TB model, they are probably about the same. One of the key issues for a lot of people are the acoustics. It lists it as 2.4 to 2.5 Bels idle which is only slight higher than the WD GP drive line. It doesn't list the seek acoustics...which are the most important really...but with the idle being what it is it s/b fairly quiet. Can you hear the drive in a quiet room?

    Thanks again and enjoy!
     
  6. Feb 11, 2011 #686 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Nice work Tony, and thanks for the details! :up: (Although you left out the part about struggling to reinstall one of the drive bracket screws. ;) )

    Enjoy your "new" TiVo!
     
  7. Feb 11, 2011 #687 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Thanks for taking the time to be a guinea pig! I know I'm looking forward to the results.
     
  8. Feb 11, 2011 #688 of 2843
    wesbc

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    The Hitachi link is for the 5K3000 series of drives which includes the 1.5, 2 and 3 TB. 2.5 Bels idel for the 3 TB and 2.4 for <3 TB which are the 1.5 and 2. Yeah too bad they don't list the seek.

    I had to unplug my old replay to hear the new Tivo and wow can't believe how loud it was compare to the new Tivo. With 2 show recording at the same time I do not hear a thing sitting 6-8 ft from it. I even shut off my air purifier as that was keeping me from hearing anything. Only if I press my ears next to it do I hear the drive doing it's thing. I'm definitely satisfied with the performance of this drive so far.
     
  9. Feb 11, 2011 #689 of 2843
    BigT4187

    BigT4187 WDW Nut

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    You know what, Rich .... I thought it was just me. That one screw was a pain. ;)

    I'll take that small hassle for the rest of the procedure going so smoothly!
     
  10. Feb 11, 2011 #690 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Excellent to know. I will keep the reference info for future recommendations. :up:
     
  11. Feb 11, 2011 #691 of 2843
    richsadams

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    LOL, you're not alone on that one and it is certainly worth the trouble!
     
  12. Feb 11, 2011 #692 of 2843
    retiredqwest

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    Well, for some reason my copy to the 2TB did not work. It got stuck on the "missing external device" screen.

    I'm copying it again right now.....

    The copy and expand from the 320G to the 500G did work.

    more later.......
     
  13. Feb 11, 2011 #693 of 2843
    HSW

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    Just did my second successful upgrade. This one was an XL unit upgraded to a 2TB WD20EARS drive. Ran Wdidle and hdscan first. The original drive was 50&#37; full and copied everything perfectly except it took 7 hours. Thanks for this great program.
     
  14. Feb 11, 2011 #694 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Congrats and thanks for the update!

    FWIW as mentioned earlier, this is a full copy program so it doesn't matter what the drive content is (full, empty or somewhere in between), the copy process/time will always be the same.

    Enjoy!
     
  15. Feb 11, 2011 #695 of 2843
    Juano11

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    Just completed an upgrade of my TiVo Premiere with a WD20EARS drive.

    It worked exactly as described. I had upgraded my TiVoHD in the past using InstantCake. This process was equally as easy.

    Ran the WD Diagnostics full scan which took about 6-8hrs (I just let it run ovenight)

    Connected the two drives to SATA ports on my motherboard and disconnected all the other drives except one optical drive.

    Booted from the CD, both drives recognized, and ran the copy process (Approx 2-3 hrs)

    Expand (seconds to minutes)

    Supersize (seconds to minutes)

    Removed old tivo drive and reconnected my regular HDDs to the motherboard. Adjusted the acoustic settings with HDD scan (Seconds to minutes)

    Install the new drive...Yes, a couple of those screws were hard to get to. I definitely needed both a T10 & T15 bit. T10 to remove the case and drive mount. T15 to remove the drive from the mount itself.

    Power up....SUCCESS! 317hrs of HD goodness for me!

    My EARS drive was manufactured in November 2010, did not mess with intellipark, just soft-rebooted fine.

    Thanks to Comer, Rich, and everyone else who contributed to this thread.

    John

    P.S. Comer, a few dineros will be headed your way soon.....
     
  16. Feb 11, 2011 #696 of 2843
    retiredqwest

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    I tried this again and got the same results.

    So, using the stock drive 320G to a 500G and then upto 1 2TB does not work for me. And I doubt that using other sizes would make a difference.

    I had my doubts JMFS would expand a TP drive twice.
     
  17. Feb 11, 2011 #697 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Thanks for doing all of that hard work. :up: Now I'm trying to wrap my head around this.

    So, we're talking about a TiVo Premiere correct?

    Upgrading from original to larger 500GB drive = Yes?

    Upgrading from upgraded 500GB drive to 1TB drive = Yes?

    Upgrading from upgraded 1TB drive to 2TB drive = No?

    I'm confused (nothing new). TIA for setting me straight.
     
  18. Feb 11, 2011 #698 of 2843
    retiredqwest

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    Yes this was using the stock 320G drive from a Tivo Premiere.


    yes

    Went straight from the 500G to the 2TB

    didn't do that....

    one of the many pleasures of advancing age......

    I don't believe the drive sizes matter too much, JMFS will only expand a TP drive once.

    And in retrospect, I doubt that too many people would use JMFS on a target drive less than 2TB.
     
  19. Feb 12, 2011 #699 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Yours or mine? Ha!

    Ah, got it. Thanks.
     
  20. Feb 23, 2011 #700 of 2843
    speed_phreak

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    This is a very interesting revelation... I had a 1tb WD green (non AV) laying around when I bought my TiVo, so I immediately upgraded it with Comer's JMFS disk. Now, I have seen how capable I am at filling up that 1tb drive and just purchased a 2tb wd av-gp drive, but have yet to try to upgrade to it.

    I am very concerned that I might not be able to further upgrade my already upgraded drive... I gotta send all my recordings to the PC, write down SP's, and start over? blah!!!

    Anyone else tried this successfully? Comer?

    TIA
     

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