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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Feb 6, 2011 #661 of 2843
    ThreeSoFar

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    Keep the original drive unchanged on the shelf. Pop it back in if you need warranty coverage.

    Avoid the external.
     
  2. Feb 6, 2011 #662 of 2843
    generaltso

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    Is that just to avoid a second point of failure, or is there another reason? Does the free space indicator have the same accuracy with both options?

    I guess I could just use the XL with the stock drive for a while since either upgrade option will preserve my recordings. If I wait long enough, maybe WD will release a 2TB expander. But I've never been good at waiting, so that probably won't happen.

    Is it even worth trying to upgrade to a 3TB drive, or has that already been tried with an XL and proven not to work?
     
  3. Feb 6, 2011 #663 of 2843
    alyssa

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    The premiere's can only be upgraded to a 2TB HD. I don't quite understand why but it is so.
    I believe he's recommending not going with a external because if the external goes bad you'll lose all your recordings, and the WD DVR's have a *bad* track record.
    The Comer upgrade is really the way to go. Plus once you do the upgrade, keep the old HD for backup. If the new HD goes bad then you still have your cablecard pairing & you can either drop it into your tivo or upgrade another HD from it.
     
  4. Feb 6, 2011 #664 of 2843
    richsadams

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    +1 :up:
     
  5. Feb 6, 2011 #665 of 2843
    generaltso

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    Yeah, everything I've seen indicates that to be the case. But has anyone tried a 3TB drive in an XL or only in a standard Premiere? I'm willing to try it, but I won't bother if it's already been done.
     
  6. Feb 7, 2011 #666 of 2843
    BigT4187

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    Still reading through the posts. Although I did order my 2TB hard drive.

    more questions ...

    - When I get the drive, do I need to format the drive at all to confirm the AAM and Intellipark timeout settings?

    - Can I just plug the 2TB drive into my PC and run HDDScan and wdidle.exe without the drive being formatted?

    Thanks for putting up with my questions.
     
  7. Feb 7, 2011 #667 of 2843
    lessd

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    No format is needed and you (if you want ) can run wdidle3, some newer WD drives don't require that so you could try not running wdidle3 and if the drive gives you a problem in a soft boot, you than can run wdidle3 without any data loss at any time.
     
  8. Feb 7, 2011 #668 of 2843
    BigT4187

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    Thanks for the quick reply!!
     
  9. Feb 7, 2011 #669 of 2843
    alyssa

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    To my limited knowledge, it's been tried in an XL. IIRC, even the upgrade sellers haven't been able to break the 2 TB ceiling.
     
  10. Feb 7, 2011 #670 of 2843
    KenVa

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    I understand people have had luck using this tool to upgrade a Tivo HD. Can this be done starting from a 1TB that I upgraded to with WinMFS before this tool was created, or would I have to go back to the orig disk? I'm hoping to be able to copy the previously upgraded disk.

    I already used this to upgrade my Premiere disk to a 2TB and it worked perfectly.
     
  11. Feb 8, 2011 #671 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Unfortunately you have to use the original drive for the upgrade. You could transfer (non-copy) protected shows to your other TiVo and move them back again after the upgrade.
     
  12. Feb 8, 2011 #672 of 2843
    KenVa

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    By the time I read your response I has already finished doing the copy. I figured by that time I would just try it out, so I expanded it using the tool and then tried to Supersize it, but that failed. I put the drive in the tivo HD and it works !!!!

    It shows 318 hours of HD recording space. I really didn't have much time to play with it this morning, but previous recording seem to work and everything seems fine. Is there something that will not work or may not upgrade? I'll have to check it out more tonight.
     
  13. Feb 8, 2011 #673 of 2843
    Royski

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    I upgraded with a Newegg WD20EARS ($69.99 after rebate) this weekend. Worked great. The drive was manufactured in December 2010 and I didn't bother with the WD software.
     
  14. Feb 8, 2011 #674 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Well, that's excellent news! I was passing on what I recalled the author (Comer) saying (and relying on the instructions in the first post), so it's great to know that an already upgraded drive can be upgraded again...thanks very much for that. :up:

    COMER: Do you see any issues?
     
  15. Feb 8, 2011 #675 of 2843
    retiredqwest

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    There is a thread for the THD and JMFS if you would like to use that to continue.

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=462179

    If I remember correctly, I copied and expanded a stock THD to various size HD's and JMFS did not even recognize them! BUT, that may have been using REV .68 versus REV 1.04 that is available now.


    So I'm copying the stock THD to a 1TB WD10EADS and will report back later with what I find.... in the other thread.
     
  16. Feb 10, 2011 #676 of 2843
    wesbc

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    Well I'm about to make the jump to 2TB using a newly sourced Hitachi CoolSpin 5K3000. AAM is not a supported feature but the drive is quite enough. Need to find out about the power management option. Also I now noticed that the Tivo drive was installed upside down. Is that what everyone is doing with their new drives? It's kinda odd.
     
  17. Feb 10, 2011 #677 of 2843
    jcthorne

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    Mine was not installed upside down. Mine had the circuit board down.
     
  18. Feb 10, 2011 #678 of 2843
    wesbc

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    Well I suppose it doesn't really matter, I have to install my drive down because if the drive was installed right side up, it would become too tall for the cover to go back on. I suppose it depends on the bracket and they might have changed them later on as mine is one of the first ones off the line.

    Anyway just installed with the newest Hitachi 5900rpm model, HDS5C3020ALA632. AAM was not a feature available to be set. The only thing I'm a little curious about is I read somewhere about enabling power management. I see that this drive have Advanced Power Management, but it's currently disabled and don't know what value is needed. Also I do see Power Management under HDDscan but not sure if that's something I need to touch.

    Anyway, It's booting up now, so far so good and the drive is pretty quiet. Though it's sitting on top of an older replay which might be masking any noise.
     
  19. Feb 10, 2011 #679 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Congratulations on your "new" TiVo! FWIW there's no need to make any adjustments to APM. TiVo is recording 24/7 and the drive never has the opportunity to spin down.

    When you have a moment can you please post the exact model number of your new hard drive? TIA and enjoy!
     
  20. Feb 10, 2011 #680 of 2843
    wesbc

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    Thanks for the input, I figured as much regarding the APM. So far so good, all my show was copied over and it's up and running with no issue so far.

    Here's the link to the drive I got from newegg.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145475&cm_re=hitachi_2tb-_-22-145-475-_-Product

    Link to Hitachi.

    http://www.hitachigst.com/internal-drives/desktop/deskstar/deskstar-5k3000

    There was a really good deal on it Tuesday during their shell shocker for $60 after the $10 rebate, and before that it was $70 after the rebate. This is a fairly new drive. I wanted to go the WD route but the 2 EARS I got both failed extended diag test which was disappointing.
     

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