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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Sep 25, 2010 #41 of 2843
    comer

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    You need:
    1. your original Tivo disk
    2. new disk larger than Tivo's
    3. computer that you can boot from CD or USB
    4. jmfs Live CD

    It implies that you also need an ability and willingness to:
    1. open/close your Tivo box
    2. take harddrive out of the Tivo and put harddrive back into it
    3. connect/disconnect the original and the new harddrives to a computer using SATA or USB
    4. burn ISO image on CD or set up a bootable USB stick
    5. boot up/shutdown a computer using the prepared bootable media
    6. follow the guided prompt
    7. wait for 2-4 hours for process to finish

    Pretty much :)

    Yes. Though upgrading non-XL Premiere gives you about the same value (depending on how much you value THX logo) for half the price.

    No. In addition to that, the disk structure requires some modifications in order to expose all its capacity to Tivo (a la "format" in Windows). That's why we needed a tool.

    Adding the requirement above to the instructions is a good idea :up:
     
  2. Sep 25, 2010 #42 of 2843
    shaggy2002

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    you rock comer...sounds good. I will get the reg premiere when I get some time and money and upgraded to the 2 TB. Thanks for your help.
     
  3. Sep 27, 2010 #43 of 2843
    Crochunters

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    Wow Comer... you ARE the man. I just upgraded my 320 gb stock premiere drive with a WD 2 terabyte drive. It works perfectly. Thank you so much for the time and energies you spent perfecting this software cd. You saved me boocoo bucks. :up:
     
  4. Sep 28, 2010 #44 of 2843
    zordude

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    Successful upgrade to 2TB Thanks Comer!

    Z
     
  5. Sep 29, 2010 #45 of 2843
    jdoscher

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    I used the 'Slax 6' option and successfully upgraded a brand new Tivo Premiere to a 2TB 'Green' drive. I followed the on-screen prompts and had no issues. I used a barebones Atom D510 box to do the imaging, and it took about 5 or 6 hours to run.

    Thanks Comer!
     
  6. Sep 30, 2010 #46 of 2843
    retiredqwest

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    I was curious as to whether this software would work on my THD.

    Computer used is an old P4 Asus MB running XP SP3. Source is the original 160 gigger.

    The first drive I tried was a Seagate 7200.11 1.5TB. JMFS booted and recognized both drives. Activated the copy and after several hours it finished and expanded the 1.5TB. THD booted up and it now showed 215 HD hrs.

    Next tried a Samsung 2TB, that I pulled from my server. JMFS did its thing again. It took 5:35 to cold boot to the intro animation.... seemed like an eternity.

    Now it shows 287 HD hrs. Here's a couple of photos...
     

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  7. Sep 30, 2010 #47 of 2843
    comer

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    Cool! Thanks for being a Pioneer (as richsadams put it)! :up: I suspected it could do that, but had no way of testing :D
     
  8. Sep 30, 2010 #48 of 2843
    retiredqwest

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    I'm running it right now to a 1TB just to see how many hours it will show.

    I ran Winmfs to a 2TB AV-GP WD20EVDS and it got 180 hrs because of the 1TB limitation.

    I ordered a Premier, against my better judgment, and will use the AV-GP WD20EVDS for it.

    I need to get the Sammy back in the server....

    Scotty
     
  9. Sep 30, 2010 #49 of 2843
    comer

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    Why is that - what is your better judgment? :)
     
  10. Sep 30, 2010 #50 of 2843
    retiredqwest

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    My conclusions for my THD:

    Using a 1TB WD10EADS It shows 142 hours.
    1.5TB = 215 hrs.
    2TB = 287 hrs.

    And I would like to think this would work for an S3, I don't have one.

    Standard Disclaimer: You try this and blow up your original drive don't come crying to me.

    Scotty
     
  11. Sep 30, 2010 #51 of 2843
    retiredqwest

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    I've been reading a LOT lately.....

    I reserve any more comment until I get mine and see how it goes....
     
  12. Sep 30, 2010 #52 of 2843
    comer

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    Well, good luck with your Premiere :) I am quite happy with mine :up: HD i-face is a bit sticky-slow, but that's OK - when I am on a couch I have nowhere to hurry anyway :D

    I checked the code once more and I think I know what could be the reason. Some things in Premiere disk structure are different than in THD. I made appropriate adjustements in jmfs in comparison to MFS Tools (for technically inclined: FS pointer offsets I think is most important). So strictly speaking they are not correct in THD. However, Tivo has quite a tolerance for errors and an ability for self-healing. I think that process is what took time.
     
  13. Oct 1, 2010 #53 of 2843
    kturcotte

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    Is there a preferred website to purchase hard drives from (Best packing/safety)? Unfortunately, the ONLY thing we have around here is a Best Buy, and they don't carry it. Also, is there anyway to run a torture test on the hard drive before I do anything, to make sure it's going to last?
     
  14. Oct 1, 2010 #54 of 2843
    tcfcameron

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    Something stands out here. A 2TB drive in a THD should give you 318 (or, in some cases 319) hours of HD content. This is when using the "Broflovski" image, which doesn't allow for use of the MFS SuperSize feature.
     
  15. Oct 1, 2010 #55 of 2843
    comer

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    Probably because it's already "supersized", hence the difference.
     
  16. Oct 1, 2010 #56 of 2843
    jbell73

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    I think that is the next and final step in this process -- figuring out how to enable the MFSSupersize feature with this process. Other than that, it's a very simple and successful upgrade process.

    -JBell73
     
  17. Oct 1, 2010 #57 of 2843
    retiredqwest

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    I ran Winmfs supersize on the 1.5TB and it went from 215 to 237 hrs.
    I ran Winmfs supersize on the 1TB and it went from 142 to 157 hrs
    I would assume the 2TB would goto the 318 hr or so mark.

    So much for my scientific evaluation....

    Scotty
     
  18. Oct 1, 2010 #58 of 2843
    Bai Shen

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    I picked up a 2TB Green drive from BB. The only issue is that they have EADS and EARS mixed together, with no way to tell them apart without opening the box.
     
  19. Oct 1, 2010 #59 of 2843
    kturcotte

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    My drive's on the way, should be here Monday. Question-I have a regular, 320 GB Premiere. Say it's full, about how long should everything take?
     
  20. Oct 1, 2010 #60 of 2843
    comer

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    Full/not full - does not matter. 2-4 hours.
     

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