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Premiere Drive Upgrade Instructions - with all-in-one jmfs Live CD

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by comer, Sep 20, 2010.

  1. Jan 15, 2011 #481 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Nice work. Enjoy!
     
  2. Jan 15, 2011 #482 of 2843
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    Circuit City has the WD2DEARS on sale for $99.99 (with $20 mail in rebate from WD thru 1/16/11 purchase) or WD2DEADS for $10 more.

    I had read elsewhere in the forum that there doesn't seem to be much difference between the 2 (one has 32mb cache and the other 64).

    If you were buying now, which would you go for?

    note: I see that Newegg has an addtl $10 off of the EARS using code EMCKJJG27, so I might go thru them to get the drive. (plus 1.5pc rebate if secured thru fatwallet.
     
  3. Jan 15, 2011 #483 of 2843
    jcthorne

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    Just adding on for one more data point.

    Just installed a 2TB EARS WD drive. 64MB cache and production date of 10/10/10 (guess this drive is all tens!). Completed Comers copy, expand and supersize without errors (thanks Comer!) and works perfectly in my new Premier. It also completed the 14.6 to 14.7 software update and several soft boots without diffeculty.

    Got it for $80 AR from Amazon.
     
  4. Jan 15, 2011 #484 of 2843
    ThreeSoFar

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    Why not the Series 3, does anyone know? Seems pretty similar to the THD.
     
  5. Jan 15, 2011 #485 of 2843
    richsadams

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    I gave that one a try. Turns out it has a different partition structure.
     
  6. Jan 15, 2011 #486 of 2843
    richsadams

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    The WD20EARS will work fine. More about it here:

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8263939#post8263939

    FWIW Amazon has the WD20EARS for $79 ARB w/free shipping. Amazon's much easier to deal with than Newegg for returns and Amazon also packs their hard drives better.

    http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digit...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1291451834&sr=1-1
     
  7. Jan 15, 2011 #487 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Sweet! :up: Enjoy!
     
  8. Jan 16, 2011 #488 of 2843
    Gregor

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    Ran this overnight with $80 WD drive from Amazon. Took several hours - I used a MacBookPro and a couple of USB-SATA connectors, for a Premiere drive.

    Works like a charm.

    Note that the Rebate as posted on Amazon is for up to 5 drives, so let the mass upgrading begin! :D
     
  9. Jan 16, 2011 #489 of 2843
    richsadams

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    2TB's of recording heaven! :up:
     
  10. Jan 16, 2011 #490 of 2843
    tommymarvel

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    Cementing Comer's legend status with another successful 2TB upgrade. I used the wd20eurs from Buy.com and completed the backup via two separate Thermaltake USB 2.0 docks. Tivo estimates 317 hours HD capacity.

    For those considering a dual dock like the Thermaltake duet over USB 2.0--it didn't work for me. The live CD would only recognize one drive at a time until I borrowed another dock and connected the drives separately.

    Oh yeah, I got the 14.7 update too.
     
  11. Jan 16, 2011 #491 of 2843
    ThreeSoFar

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    I know....I got three 2TBs for the new Premiere's on the way, I just added two more for the HDTiVos, too. Gotta pull the trigger today though, rebate ends 16 JAN.
     
  12. Jan 16, 2011 #492 of 2843
    Gregor

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    Note the rebate form wants the serial #s of the drives - so copy that off before you put the drive in the Tivo....
     
  13. Jan 16, 2011 #493 of 2843
    supersnoop

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    Fry's has the Western Digital Elements external 2TB drive on sale for $89.99. Pop open the external case and there's a WD20EARS inside. I pulled the drive and I'm getting it ready for a THD 2TB setup. And I'll use the external case with an old drive.
     
  14. Jan 16, 2011 #494 of 2843
    richsadams

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    That's an option now and then but the issue with doing that is that it voids the drive warranty. The other downside to WD's external drives is that they only carry a 12 month warranty. Their bare drives have a three-year warranty. But if that's not an issue (and hopefully it won't be) then enjoy.

    Still time to get the same (bare) drive from Amazon for $79.99 AR w/free shipping. But as ThreeSoFar noted, deal ends today.

    http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digit...1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1291451834&sr=1-1
     
  15. Jan 18, 2011 #495 of 2843
    gt7610c

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    FYI to all, WD posted a new $20 rebate/VISA card ends 1/31 valid at the usual places.

    Ran WD Data Lifeguard full test and came back ok.
    Successfully copied/expanded/supersized a WD20EARS drive.
    Prod date 27 Oct 10 that came w/intellipark disabled, had to set AAM to 128. Now to send Comer some beer money :D
     
  16. Jan 19, 2011 #496 of 2843
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    Please pardon the related but slightly off topic question. Seems there are quite a few folks here that know a thing or three about hard drives.

    For PC use (not tivo), can I use one of the new 3TB SATA drives from WD in a standard SATA to USB enclosure (like the Antech MX-100) or dock or does the enclosure need to be something different for these new drives larger than 2.2TB?

    Also, Amazon has the Seagate 2TB LP drive on sale for $75, free shipping and no rebate.
     
  18. Jan 20, 2011 #498 of 2843
    richsadams

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    Regarding the 3TB drive, it depends on a couple of things, the enclosure and your operating system. I don't believe the Antec MX-1 is rated for 3TB but you should contact them to find out (they are very responsive). If you have an Apple or Linux computer, no problem. If you're running Windows it depends on the OS (XP, Vista, W7, etc.) and if you're running 32 bit or 64bit. For 32 bit systems there's a 2.2TB limit but there are work arounds and IIRC some of the new 3TB external (and possibly some internal) drives use a special host controller. 64 bit systems can utilize the new 3TB drives. You'd need to do some research. Here's area a couple of documents to get you started:

    http://www.hitachigst.com/tech/techlib.nsf/techdocs/869E4925CC72E233862577E100235119/$file/Deskstar_3TB_FAQ_finalwebv2.pdf

    http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2010...3tb-drive-brings-more-than-32-bit-can-handle/

    FWIW I used to be a Seagate man for years but ever since they acquired Maxtor their QC has suffered a great deal so anyone buying Seagate drives these days should proceed with caution. Another Seagate drive caveat is that the AAM (auto acoustic management) cannot be adjusted so being aware of the drive acoustic specs is very important. Stock TiVo (WD) drives are about 2.6 bels and WD AV GP drives seek noise is around 2.4 bels for reference. Also know that all drive manufacturers tend to under report drive noise.

    Hope that helps!
     
  19. Jan 20, 2011 #499 of 2843
    jcthorne

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    Thanks, appreciate the information. Unfortunatly still no real answers. I did contact Antech and they tell me that they only tested either of thier enclosures to 2TB as that was all that was available when they were designed.

    The Hitachi page you referred me to seems to indicate as others have told me, that for external storage via USB, the OS does not matter. IE 3TB drives are fine on XP using this method, just not as internal drives or boot drives. The controller in the enclosure does the translation anyway.

    I have searched high and low and NONE of the enclosure manufactures state thier enclosures work for greater than 2TB. Not that they won't, just untested. I had hoped someone here had some first hand knowledge on these issues they could offer.

    Thanks
     
  20. Jan 20, 2011 #500 of 2843
    richsadams

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    FWIW the Antec MX-1's spec page said that it worked with all drives "up to 1TB" for quite a while after 2TB drives had been introduced. It turned out that 2TB drives worked fine in them but it took them months to update their info. Might be worth a try.
     

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